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Offline Jester

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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2003, 11:29:51 AM »
Vermillion - to elaborate a little on your post - this is the record of "Claimed" kills by the 921st SAO DAO (Red Star) FIGHTER REGIMENT VPAF. This unit flew both the MIG-17 & MIG-21 at the same time.

If you will notice there are many more USAF planes listed than USN. But that is not conclusive as the USAF flew more sorties than the USN did.

921st FR KILLS:*
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4   x F-8 Crusaders
26 x F-105 Thunderchief
39 x F-4 Phantom (USN & USAF)
1   x F-102 Delta Dagger
4   x A-1 Skyraider
1   x A-4 Skyhawk
2   x B-52 Stratofortress
2   x RF-101 Voodoo
1   x RA-5 Vigilante
3   x EB-66 Skywarrior
1   x HH-53 Jolly Green Giant
5   x Firebee Recon Drones  

*Keep in mind many of these claims have no match in reported US losses but it gives you an idea of how the air war was fought.
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Offline Angus

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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2003, 01:57:03 PM »
Getting back to the original topic of this thread, I would expect only 2 more jets in AH, if not just 1.
Firstly the Gloster Meteor who was already operating in the theatre of war in 1945, or even late 1944. Although not encountering German planes to fight with, they did shoot down V-1 flying bombs. BTW, a V-1 would be nice to have in AH:D
Secondly, the Henkel-162, who was operable and did enter combat.
Don't think there's more to add, since we  have the Arado, 262 and 163.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2003, 02:06:05 PM »
The thing about differences between USN and USAF going to RPVI a and b is that the USN was right off the beach which had a direct result as to why the USAF saw a lot more of the MiG-21.  This was because the USAF was detected a lot further out and the Vietnamese had the time to position their MiG-21s correctly.  Typically there were a few holding patterns where the MiGs would be directed out of and towards the strike.  The USN didn't have as far to go and didn't offer as much time to plan a defense as the USAF strikes.  The MiGs also wouldn't venture into the gulf either due to the Talos armed cruisers which did score a couple kills.  And then we can get into the USAF tactics...four fat F-4s in welded wing flying off lead.  But I've never read anything about the best pilots being reserved to hit USAF.