Kill Scoring

[Swager]

What about the ditching behind enemy lines.  Pilot gets captured, but victor pilots gets no kill.  Weird.

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[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 06-11-2000).]

[Hooligan]

scuse me Mury:

If they had perfect information in WWII (like the host does) they would not have hesitated to use it  .

When you force down an enemy aircraft it should count as a kill.  That's how they scored it in WWII.

Hooligan

[SFRT - Frenchy]

People are hitting the wrong target. Guys got upset yelling at the ditching too easy because they don't get a kill for that.

That's not the solution, give a kill for someone ditching and let people who ditch survivability non altered.

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[Mury]

Nope, nope,nope nope.

Funked and I have a long running dialogue about the function of historical and real.

WWII=historical. Historically speaking they were not able to count all the aircraft that they knocked down, also....they would count the same aircraft twice, so let's really raise a ruckus and suggest two things, sometimes you won't get credit for a kill (baby..pblblblbltg) and sometimes TWO guys'll get credit for a kill

(say there's a tremendous amount of smoke and damage and the aircraft remains flying for a time, and the 2nd guy whacks him to death)

or

Perhaps no kill scoring, only points a la the Luftwaffe(If I got that right) both'd be indicative of WWII.

perfection, would not be....  

let the inferno begin!


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[Nash]

Just a technical question here:

Some guy is screamin' along, headin' home. It's a 51... and we ALL know they aint interested inna fight  . But he spots yer plane in his path, and throws a bit of lead at ya, scorin' a ping or two, no damage to speak of. And whoosh he's off on his merry way. 20 minutes later, you decide ya better bring it home, being short on fuel. Somehow, ya blow the landing... a little too hard. Yer left gear snaps and ya whirl around, coming to a stop on the grass a few feet left of the runway.

Kill of you to the 51?

[Dinger]

Nash, that's a weak argument, since your argument runs:
B (Ditching off the runway) is porked.
Fixing A (ditches don't count as kills) will make B worse.
Therefore let's not fix A.

when it should be:
Let's fix A and fix B accordingly (Ditches out of sight of the attackiing enemy shouldn't count as kills).

[BotaBing]

Kill Scoring is something that has really frustrated me.

I'm engaged in a fight, we have been going for 5 minutes, adn right as I get in position to fire, someone drops in from above and wipes the guy out.

He only got that shot because I worked the guy into position, and I get nothing for it??

Seems kind of unfair.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Nash, the discussion was centered about giving a kill to people ditching when u still around, so I belive that ur example doesn't apply.

[Nash]

Frenchy - I didn't see anyone mention that.

If that's the case maybe we should talk about the range at which this ditch score thing will take effect.

And Dinger, I didn't see anyone mention that ditching off of the runway is porked. The fact is - it's what we currently *have*.

So until that's 'fixed', and someone comes up with an idea about a ditching plane's range from the attacker before it's called a safe ditch, then my scenario still holds.

Sayin' ya want the ditchin' thing to translate into a kill is all good. But how specifically do ya want this thing to be handled?

[Nash]

And ok, lets assign a range at which you get awarded a kill if someone yer attacking ditches. For argument's sake, lets say at roughly icon range - 8.0.

Now - ya damage a guy and he's going in. Before he ditches you are killed. Is the ditch-kill now awarded to the plane nearest the ditcher? 8k away from the fight who had nothing to do with the plane's reason for ditching? Is this any more realistic when held up to the standards for awarding kills in WWII?

[funked]

Kill is awarded to the guy who damaged him most.

[Suave1]

The host knows whether or not you are in enemy territory. Thats why we get, "You have been captured" and "You have ditched", messages If you take any damage and ditch in enemy territory you should be counted as a kill . And with the upcoming patch it's supposed do be more difficult to ditch a plane without damaging it . This may discourage the infuriating act of ditching unscathed in the middle of an engagement with the old "ran out of fuel" excuse . If you loose one of you counties aircraft becuase you ran it out of fuel, you deserve to be a pow .

[iculus]

Perhaps you should only get a "kill" for a ditch if you are in viewing range.

two cents worth

IC

[HaHa]

Alot of us don't give a danm about the score. Personally I LIKE ditching the way it is. It gives you a reason to try and survive (i.e. show that guy who shot you that you can land). Otherwise you might as well just bail or whatever.

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by funked:
Is this a WW2 sim?  If so, let's use WW2 kill scoring.  None of this "Forced Ditch" bullshnit.  

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 06-11-2000).]

Okay, if you want WW2 scoring...then if you get killed, you're banished from the sim for life, no replanes.  



[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 06-12-2000).]