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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2003, 09:52:21 AM »
:(

17 years and  4 days since the last one :(

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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2003, 09:58:20 AM »
I just heard that news....OMG...Challenger again.....

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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2003, 10:03:20 AM »
Reagans speech after the Challenger tragedy:


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Nineteen years ago, almost to the day, we lost three astronauts in a terrible accident on the ground. But, we've never lost an astronaut in flight; we've never had a tragedy like this. And perhaps we've forgotten the courage it took for the crew of the shuttle; but they, the Challenger Seven, were aware of the dangers, but overcame them and did their jobs brilliantly. We mourn seven heroes: Michael Smith, Dick Scobee, Judith Resnik, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Gregory Jarvis, and Christa McAuliffe. We mourn their loss as a nation together.

For the families of the seven, we cannot bear, as you do, the full impact of this tragedy. But we feel the loss, and we're thinking about you so very much. Your loved ones were daring and brave, and they had that special grace, that special spirit that says, 'Give me a challenge and I'll meet it with joy.' They had a hunger to explore the universe and discover its truths. They wished to serve, and they did. They served all of us.

We've grown used to wonders in this century. It's hard to dazzle us. But for twenty-five years the United States space program has been doing just that. We've grown used to the idea of space, and perhaps we forget that we've only just begun. We're still pioneers. They, the members of the Challenger crew, were pioneers.

And I want to say something to the schoolchildren of America who were watching the live coverage of the shuttle's takeoff. I know it is hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them...

There's a coincidence today. On this day 390 years ago, the great explorer Sir Francis Drake died aboard ship off the coast of Panama. In his lifetime the great frontiers were the oceans, and a historian later said, 'He lived by the sea, died on it, and was buried in it.' Well, today we can say of the Challenger crew: Their dedication was, like Drake's, complete.

The crew of the space shuttle Challenger honoured us by the manner in which they lived their lives. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye and 'slipped the surly bonds of earth' to 'touch the face of God.'

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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2003, 10:07:26 AM »
I just spoke to one of the Public Affairs spokespersons for Boeing/Nasa's Space shuttle program immediately after the first report of lost contact thru email via my work (Z-token dialup from  home). I know him because we have the same name and I get his emails, he gets mine, by accident when folks send email in the company email system.  He's on a flight in 1 hour headed to Texas...he said the crew is gone. (pretty obvious after just now seeing the footage) :(

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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2003, 10:11:17 AM »
Apparently during the launch some pieces of insulation fell off the shuttle and hit the wing, this is suspected that it might have dislodged  some of the ceramic tiles in the wing,but this is just preliminary news it's not yet clear.

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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2003, 10:12:14 AM »
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just saw the vid on fox, any word on impact area?


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Very sad day. :(

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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2003, 10:13:57 AM »
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2003, 10:18:51 AM »
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Apparently during the launch some pieces of insulation fell off the shuttle and hit the wing, this is suspected that it might have dislodged  some of the ceramic tiles in the wing,but this is just preliminary news it's not yet clear.


An ex-NASA engineer on local TV here just said that the insulation material that fell off is the consistency of styrofoam...kinda like one of those styrofoam ice chests.  So, according to him its unlikely that it could have caused any damage.  He did say, however that if a piece of ice hit the wing it could have damaged the heat resistant tiles.

My question is this.....if they had even the slightest chance of damage, why didnt they check it out while there were still in space before they attempted re-entry?

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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2003, 10:25:36 AM »
In the past they have used the robotic arm and looked over the exterior with the camera it has.

The shuttle still carries a good amount of very explosive fuel onboard at that point - oxygen tanks too (remember apollo 13) - any number of things could be responsible.

It is a terrible thing, and here we were just begining to think of shuttle flights as routine again.  Even I had stopped watching the liftoffs or paying attention to the sonic booms here in Florida anymore.   It is a very sad day for us all.

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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2003, 10:32:00 AM »
This is the flight plan from about when they lost her:

08:43:53 AM...Shuttle hits discernible atmosphere
08:49:26 AM...23-degree right roll command
08:56:15 AM...63-degree roll reversal
09:09:29 AM...Velocity less than mach 2.5
09:11:38 AM...Velocity less than mach 1


http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html#CBS%20NEWS%20STATUS%20REPORT

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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2003, 10:32:20 AM »
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In the past they have used the robotic arm and looked over the exterior with the camera it has.

The shuttle still carries a good amount of very explosive fuel onboard at that point - oxygen tanks too (remember apollo 13) - any number of things could be responsible.

It is a terrible thing, and here we were just begining to think of shuttle flights as routine again.  Even I had stopped watching the liftoffs or paying attention to the sonic booms here in Florida anymore.   It is a very sad day for us all.


They jettison all fuel before re-entry.
The shuttle lands unpowered.

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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2003, 10:32:35 AM »
Thought you'd like this.

The end credits from Apollo 13, and I find this very appropriate for today's tragedy, a mixture of sorrow for their passing and pride for what these men and women do.

Download here:

http://casal.upc.es/~danig27/theme.mp3

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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2003, 10:39:45 AM »
Man I can remember the day I watched the Colombia take off for the very first time when I was a little boy .

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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2003, 10:42:56 AM »
They have national weather service radar tape that shows the debries.. its so big it looks like a storm on radar

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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2003, 10:46:37 AM »
"This morning, Husband, McCool and Chawla checked out the flight control surfaces of Columbia after activating one of the orbiter’s three auxiliary power units in a routine pre-landing test of the Shuttle’s systems. A little later, the crew test-fired the reaction control system jets that will regulate Columbia’s attitude as it begins its fiery re-entry through the Earth’s atmosphere. Opposing jets were fired simultaneously to avoid affecting the spacecraft’s orientation. "

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/spacenews/reports/sts-107/sts-107-17.html

 Not sure how thorough the check was ... but I'm willing to bet the crew took whatever measures they deemed neccesary to assure a safe return.





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My question is this.....if they had even the slightest chance of damage, why didnt they check it out while there were still in space before they attempted re-entry?