How does a 3.7cm AA gun kill a Tiger from the Front ?

[Rockstar]

How does a 3.7cm AA gun kill a Tiger from the Front ?

I don't know, lets ask Mr. Owl!

Mr. Owl how many hits does it take to get the center of a tiger tank?

Mr. Owl:  I don't know lets see, a one, a twooo,  a thrreeee...


well some will know the rest of the story  

[Soulyss]

I also hit an M3 Half Track with 4 AP shells from the Panzer IV and it took off like a "Scalded Cat!" Like it didn't even have a scratch from the hits.

Don't use AP rounds on halftracks, use HE.  One HE round from a Tiger put anywhere near an m3 (within a carlength or so) will destroy it.

[moot]

Shiva I must have spent maybe a dozen M16s' loads of 50 cal and one load of Pz-75mm, M8-37, LVT-whatever trying to pass rounds into the front view slits of the Panzer, and there was no damage noted by said Pz driver.

I don't see Tiger front armor and field aaa penetration curve on ramzey's graph.

and yeah, it'd be nice to get cargo added to damage list.

[ramzey]

u dont see? so why u take voice

once again u alll try to proof then DM on gv's in AH is not perfect

booooooooooooring:D

guys give up

ramzey

[moot]

because ramzey is supposed to have the answer to such an easy question.

give up because AHBB too thick rather.

[ramzey]

big sorry my bad,  "AAA"

answer is simple, allmost all AAA  guns /from barrel 2 cm/ was loaded only fragmentation granade /shels/.

AP ammno was usless against aircrafts, and not many AAA guns was used against tanks.  

ramzey

[moot]

thank you.

[whels]

Originally posted by ramzey
big sorry my bad,  "AAA"

answer is simple, allmost all AAA  guns /from barrel 2 cm/ was loaded only fragmentation granade /shels/.

AP ammno was usless against aircrafts, and not many AAA guns was used against tanks.  

ramzey

HT put Mannable AA guna on the field for AA defence, but also there had been requests for anti GV  field guns. so im betting
HT mad the mannable AAs very good vs GVs.

the mannable AAs are 37mm AP/HE

whels

[Dr Zhivago]

"I saw one of the new Tiger tanks at a range of around 1000 yards & fired seven times. I saw each round bounce off the front & side armour. The Tiger traversed it's gun & blew off our left track killing the driver."
British Matilda tank commander Tunisia 1943

"Our column engaged three Panzer 6 tanks at a ranges of between 200 - 800 yards. We stopped one of the Tigers by sustained fire on its tracks. This was after repeated shots against the upper armour which had no effect even at short range. The Tigers destroyed 8 of our M4 tanks & we were forced to retreat., even the disabled enemy tank was still firing at us as we retreated.....  "
American armoured regiment commanders report North Africa 1943

" I attacked a Panzer mk 6 at a range of 400 yards. I fired 8 - 10 times with armour piercing shells at the tanks side & turret. Every shot simply bounced off & the Tiger escaped after destroying both my flank tanks"
Russian tank commanders report  1943

" A panzer mk 6 which the enemy has called Tiger appeared near our position. Our battery fired against it using Anti Tank rounds. None of the rounds were effective & after being joined by another two tanks the enemy destroyed our position & we were forced to retreat..."
Russian Anti-tank battery commanders report  1944

 " A tiger tank appeared from out of a wood firing on the move. It had already destroyed 6 of my T-34 tanks at ranges of between 200 - 600 meters. We fired bteween 20- 30 AP shells all of which simply bounced off the thick armour. We had to call in air support to fend the tank off which retreted back into the wood & got away "
Soviet tank crewman's report preblinka 1944

" Our commanders have decided on a new tactic. If the Germans send a Tiger tank we will send out 8 shermans to meet it & we expect to lose 7 of them "
British " optimism"  Normandy 1944

" Our new Josef Stalin tanks seem to be getting the better of the German Tiger class. However I will not send my T-34 tanks into the battlefield without at least two Josef Stalins in case the Germans deploy Tiger tanks..... "
Russian Guards Commanders statement 1944. The commander was subsequently shot for cowardice!

" I drove my sherman column directly at a hidden Tiger tank near Beauville. The Tiger tank destroyed 7 of my company before it retreated. We fired constantly at the Tigers front armour with AP & HEAT rounds at ranges as short as 100 yards. None of our rounds penetrated the thick front armour... "
British Armoured Battalion Captain's report Normandy 1944

" Our scouts reported an enemy column consisting of  a single Panzer mk6 Tiger & two Panzer 4 tanks moving Northwest. Our commander decided to pull back & discuss tactics. It was agreed to call in air support to deal with the threat rather than risk losing any of our own tanks.... "
British Churchill Crewmans report Normandy 1944

" We sighted two Tiger tanks of the Das Reich division at a range of 600 yards. We fired 4 shells which all bounced off. The Tigers subsequently turned around & headed straight for us. We pulled back after losing 6 shermans. One of our Firefly tanks managed to score a direct hit on the left flank of one of the Tigers before it too was destroyed by the surviving Tiger. We saw the crew escape from the crippled Tiger & climb onto it's comrade before the tank retreated. There were no survivors from our tanks which simply burst into flames......"
Canadian M4 Crewman's report Normandy 1944

" Our company engaged three Tiger tanks which were moving towards our right flank. We fired 12 AP rounds at the Tigers side armour at ranges of 100 - 600 yards. apart from the the removal of the rippled paste coveing no significant damage was done to the enemy tanks. We lost 4 shermans & a number of halftracks before the Tigers escaped. I identified one of the attacking vehicles as a Liebestandarte Panzer division number 331...."
British Sherman Crewman's report Normandy 1944

"We sighted a column of enemy armour consisting of 2 Tigers, a Panther & 2 Panzer 4 tanks. We called for armour support which arrived in the form of around 20 Firefly tanks. They manged to destroy the panther & one of the Panzer 4 tanks before the 2 Tiger tanks began to pick them off. We lost 6 firefly tanks in as many minutes before the Germans retreated. We provided fire support using heavy machine guns, mortars & PIAT rounds all of which were ineffective..."
British Infantry commanders report Normandy 1944

"I saw 4 tigers at around 1800 yards & fired upon them. I fired 15 shots using Armour Peircing ammunition & hit their right sides they all bounced off....."
British Sherman commanders report Normandy 1944

[GRUNHERZ]

Here is another one I found recently:

A panzer mk 6 Tiger appeared near our position. Our battery fired against it starting from 2000meters. All of the rounds were immediatley effective and the enemy was destroyed.

Commander A.H. roadkillskov - 391st Guards light 37mm AAA battalion, east front 1944.

[vorticon]

once i drove a panzer right up to a tiger...after blasting at 1 track for a while with ap the track finally went up then i rolled around to the other side (having already taken out its guns) i shot it a few times with the turret mg...track goes up...seems that turret mg can sometimes do more damage than a ap round...

[brady]

I was dueling with a PIV at over 28(on the range marker in the sight) and I hit him 3 times, no aparent effect, He fired 3 shels at once!(lag aparently) and one hit  and it killed my Tiger instantly, I was front on to him, man I was pissed.