Author Topic: Why the US should tell the UN to get stuffed (Read 1621 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #60 on:** February 06, 2003, 10:27:15 AM »

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Were France to follow such a policy, all those people who died guaranteeing France's freedom would truly have died in vain. Freedom is unconditional, or it just isn't freedom. As you yourself point out - the British & Americans lie dead from guaranteeing France's freedom NOT their cooperation. IMHO, suggesting otherwise sullies their sacrifice with an ulterior motive that runs completely counter to the freedom you pay lip service to. [/B]

I don't think Bodhi was suggesting other than political coercion. Of course France is a sovereign nation and can do what they want within their borders. Just as the US, and anyone else, will be morally free to ignore their call for help in any future crisis.

Suave · « **Reply #61 on:** February 06, 2003, 11:30:33 AM »

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Of course France is a sovereign nation and can do what they want within their borders. Just as the US, and anyone else, will be morally free to ignore their call for help in any future crisis.

But you know America would never do that .

straffo · « **Reply #62 on:** February 06, 2003, 03:02:29 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
I don't think Bodhi was suggesting other than political coercion. Of course France is a sovereign nation and can do what they want within their borders. Just as the US, and anyone else, will be morally free to ignore their call for help in any future crisis.

You've already done custom coercicion so what's forbid you to do the same as usual ?

I know the answer : free market ... but only for US.

Gunthr · « **Reply #63 on:** February 06, 2003, 03:42:34 PM »

Interesting thread.

I don't want my country, the USA, to depend on a show of hands in the UN to decide on critical matters of national security that effect our country, our loved ones, our home.

I want my country to do whatever it has to do to stay secure. The only dissenters the US Government should heed is the dissent of its own people, and its allies.

What business does a country like North Korea, Iraq, Libya, etc have in voting on matters that effect US national security?

UN member countries aren't even required to obey their own resolutions. That says something about an organization.