Author Topic: Will the French Veto? (Read 634 times)

Habu · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2003, 08:59:17 AM »

France will eventually agree because if they do not then they will be shown to be irrelevant. The would never allow that to happen. Germany would hold back support for the war even if the war goes ahead though. They do not mind be thought of as irrelevant by the rest of the western world.

France likes to cause the US to bow and scrape before them "proving" what they already know then they can say "We held back the warmongering US until we were satisfied of the proof" as if they had anything to do with it.

The picture of France sniffing Germany's bellybutton is classic. I love it.

Eagler · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2003, 09:12:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Europeans Strive to Tighten Trade Ties with Iraq

Written Sept/02

bbbbb...bingo

ditto for Germany

Iraq a major tradin partner for both of them so of course they don't want to upset the apple cart - that is exactly why what they have to say on the issue is irrelevant.........and our leaders know it.

Dowding · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2003, 09:13:58 AM »

So you've met most of the people of France then, Saurdaukar? That must have been quite a task. You must have arms of steel to do all that hand-shaking.

Or are you making such a statement on the back of prejudice as the result of meeting maybe a score of French people, out of a total population of 60 million?

No matter. A similar remark concerning the US would attract a plethora of remarks involving the words 'US hater', 'anti-American', maybe even 'f**ker'. But it's ok to do that with the populations of other countries it would seem.

A far more sensible approach would be to criticise the French government. Afterall, it is they who are making the policies. Then again, if you did that with the US government, you would attract a plethora of remarks involving the words 'US hater', 'anti-American', maybe even 'f**ker'.

It's a funny old world, innit?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2003, 09:19:17 AM »

I guess its REPOST TIME!

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2003, 09:46:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
So you've met most of the people of France then, Saurdaukar? That must have been quite a task. You must have arms of steel to do all that hand-shaking.

Or are you making such a statement on the back of prejudice as the result of meeting maybe a score of French people, out of a total population of 60 million?

No matter. A similar remark concerning the US would attract a plethora of remarks involving the words 'US hater', 'anti-American', maybe even 'f**ker'. But it's ok to do that with the populations of other countries it would seem.

A far more sensible approach would be to criticise the French government. Afterall, it is they who are making the policies. Then again, if you did that with the US government, you would attract a plethora of remarks involving the words 'US hater', 'anti-American', maybe even 'f**ker'.

It's a funny old world, innit?

Yes, yes, yes - I have shook the hand of every Frenchman that walks (and crawls). But funnily enough - Ive never had much contact with Brits (Except for Hammy - and I dont think you want him shaping my opinion of the rest of you. I suppose its understandable, however - maybe if you had a building over six stories, you'd understand 9/11.)

In the spirit of surrender, however, Ill conceed that you are indeed wise and just, and I should have directed my comments at the French government. SO! Without further ado! :::Imagine a stupid Yank giving the ol' two finger salute:::

StSanta · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2003, 11:37:50 AM »

Yep, Toad has got it right. France might veto, and it's all got to do with money.

On the other hand, trading with Iraq isn't as bad as selling biological weapons to Iraq, well knowing they'll be used.

But that's a red herring. France will do what the US does; protect its national interests. And right now, they're colliding with that of the US - at least that's what the French think. I think they'll reconsider when Saddam sells some VMDs to some Algerian fundamentalists who decide to take revenge on Paris.

They're wrong here - straffo, you have a chance to show them. Don't vote for 'em if they keep this double standards BS up.

Udie wrote:

at this point they shouldn't even be invited. diddly em. They'd rather support a dictator than help free the Iraqi people. Feed em fish eggs

No, they'd rather have more inspections (i.e secure their economic interests) rather than a war, which isn't akin to backing the dictator. Their trading with Iraq is indirect support however. Then again, the US offered direct support, military intelligence and WMDs not so long ago. But on this, the US is right; either he stops his roadkill, which he won't, or he gets blown to smithereens.

Just wanted to clear this misrepresentation of the French position. Before anyone else yells 'they support a dictator', it should be noted that the US supported the same man not so long ago.

Lance · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2003, 12:37:12 PM »

I don't think France or the other nation's in the U.N. will veto the U.S. going in to take out Hussein. If they do, and the U.S. goes ahead without U.N. approval, then the U.N. is neutered and goes the road of the League of Nations. Even if they don't think its right, they don't care enough about Hussein to risk their voice within the U.N. becoming meaningless.

I think they are just raising objections so they can extract favors from us for their support, and so that they can play both sides of the fence depending on the outcome and who they are talking to.

Habu · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2003, 12:43:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Lance
I don't think France or the other nation's in the U.N. will veto the U.S. going in to take out Hussein. If they do, and the U.S. goes ahead without U.N. approval, then the U.N. is neutered and goes the road of the League of Nations. Even if they don't think its right, they don't care enough about Hussein to risk their voice within the U.N. becoming meaningless.

I think they are just raising objections so they can extract favors from us for their support, and so that they can play both sides of the fence depending on the outcome and who they are talking to.

Very astute and 100% correct.

straffo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2003, 04:09:21 PM »

Santa we just need a bit of knowledge from our fellow american so instead of making money with Iraq will make a lot money with China.

As you see we can make money with any barbaric country.

I sincerly hope that France will veto just to piss those French basher.

X2Lee · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2003, 04:16:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
heh right Moloch, i still wondering why the US even care what French or Germany
is doing, at the end they will attack Iraq with the UN or without.
Happy war!

Ahh we are just trying to be polite.
We really and truly dont give a rats bellybutton about what
germany and france are *not* doing.

since you asked....