Give me LIBERATOR or give me...Ditch?

[mia389]

Manx if you like radar so much DEFEND IT.  I agree a B24 would be great. I see to many people squeak about losing dar. Its not that hard to defend your HQ. Specially on big maps. When you see a red dar 2 sectors in your territory its a bomber., All you have to do is up with your squadies and kill it, you can do this 4 sectors away from HQ too. Too many people let them go until HQ is blinking but then its too late.  Ive seen manx state 1person efecting the gave for 300 others is crazy, but how many of them 300 others upped to defend HQ.

[streetstang]

Guys lets end an argument before it gets going, none of us ever wanted the B24 in this game as a "HQ Raider". The fact of the matter is, most of the strat targets in the new maps, such as the Trinity map are just too far away to make a successful drop and return home. And as to the remarks about just moving closer to the target, since when did any of the bombers up from 200 mile out of nme territory and bomb strat targets from 8,000 feet??? Certailly while anyone is up there at 35,000 feet, they are not encountering much force from the enemy, but these drops do take some planning to be done effectivly, all we are asking is for the ability to get home once the drop is completed; thats it.

[Sakai]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
  I belive the time has come to Beg HT for the: Consolidated B-24 Liberator D.  Including its Historic 12,000 Lb.+ Bomb Load capacity, and extra long Range.

Yes, please, I really want to kill what the other pilots called the "Flying toejamhouses".

We have two of the three most prevalent heavy bombers made already.  Need more variety of early war craft and fleshed out 109s, P-38s and Japanese AC.  Heck, I'd like a T-34 before I'd want a Liberator.

Granted, it would be nice to have one, but only after we have a fuller planeset.  

Sakai

[TheManx]

A good bomber addition to AH imo would be the Halifax. High numbers of them were built, and they participated for a longer duration during the war.

[Sakai]

Originally posted by TheManx
A good bomber addition to AH imo would be the Halifax. High numbers of them were built, and they participated for a longer duration during the war.

How about the "Wimpy", Wellington?

The Russian Il-4?  No multiple engined Ruissian AC.

The SM79 or Cant Z1007?

All better options in terms of fleshing out planeset, but eventually, sure build a 24.

Sakai

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Sakai
How about the "Wimpy", Wellington?

The Russian Il-4?  No multiple engined Ruissian AC.

The SM79 or Cant Z1007?

All better options in terms of fleshing out planeset, but eventually, sure build a 24.

Sakai

 Originally posted by TheManx
A good bomber addition to AH imo would be the Halifax. High numbers of them were built, and they participated for a longer duration during the war.

Yall Start your Own Stinking Thread!  LOL!!  
scavengers

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by TheManx
Until a single formation can't destroy HQ, I have no problems with a single fighter killing the formation.

 FYI  a Single Formation of B17s can not destroy the HQ... It Takes
19,000 Lbs to do that.

[TheManx]

A single Lancaster formation can destroy it. I don't fly bombers enough to know what a B17 can or can't do, but I do know for a fact that it can hit radar hard enough so that your team only has friendly icon bars. At that point, it's even worse than having it all the way down, because you can't resupply it. Feel free to keep splitting hairs though.

What I'm saying is that I think one formation has too much potential to hamper the fun of everyone on one side. You can disagree with me till you're blue in the face, but it won't change my opinion that this is inherently wrong. I think it should be unnecessary for me to bail out of my Typhoon mid-flight just to chase some afk idiot reading some romance novel from a deck chair on his back porch. I hear you guys talking about 3 hour flights, and 35k altitudes and I know I'm already out of the running, because my Typhoon only flys to 20k and for about 1/2 hour. If they took away all potential of ruining play for everyone else from bombers, I wouldn't miss it one bit.

[TheManx]

A Raid on NME HQ will almost Definitely end in a ditch.

Guys lets end an argument before it gets going, none of us ever wanted the B24 in this game as a "HQ Raider".

Sure some of you did.

[TheManx]

Ive seen manx state 1person efecting the gave for 300 others is crazy, but how many of them 300 others upped to defend HQ.

All of them that thought chasing bombers at 35k to amount to some sort of fun. Sometimes that's nobody. A simple solution to this is to make dar indestructible and give bombers 1000000 points for bombing it. I'd even give you directions on how to get there if that were the case.

[Mugzeee]

Hitech or Admin. Please Delete this thread. This getting silly.

[maxtor]

Dont waste time on "planes we need" threads.  HTC already said we not gettign anymore until after AH2 release.  So save your breath for closer to 2004.

[streetstang]

This is a sim game, and it is to enjoy flying the planes of WW2 and to use the tactics that were used in all wars. Now we want to make buildings bullet proof. OMG!!! Mugz you are right, some people just don't get it... But why not put the B24 in the game, hell you can give it a 200 mile range for all i care, its a magnificent plane and deserves a spot in AH....

[rpm]

The Liberator was built in Fort Worth..about 20 miles away from HTC. That alone should be reason to include it in the mix. I'd love to see a Ploesti Raid scenario! As far as the HQ raiders concerns...anything short of a loaded Enola Gay should be considered. (Heh...wouldn't THAT be cool!)

[blkmgc]

The lib was the workhorse of the war. No other bomber was produced in the same numbers,used in just about all theatres,or more versatile.A must have for any WWII sim. (Same as the Mitchels, but thats another thread )

blkmgc