Author Topic: Gas (Read 1117 times)

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #30 on:** February 12, 2003, 07:43:24 AM »

I paid $ 1.89 for 93
Orlando..

beet1e · « **Reply #31 on:** February 12, 2003, 08:05:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga
87 and 91 octane? uhmm... are octanes same there as they are here or are those somekind of "imperial octanes"?
My cars engine would blow up if I'd fill the tank with 91 octane.

95 is the cheap watermelon here (your regular?) with ~1.1eur/litre (4,16eur per U.S Gallon AFAIK) and 98 costs 10-15 cents more per liter.

Historically, America had cars with large V8 engines with relatively low compression ratio. For that type of engine, a low octane fuel will suffice. European engines have always been smaller but get their power by being higher revving and more finely tuned with high compression ratio which needs a higher octane fuel.

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2003, 08:37:40 AM »

Don't believe that they use the same octane rating method in every country.

we have had pruduction cars with as high as 13/1 compression.. a lot of U.S. cars are now about 10/1. Low compression was an emissions thing in the mid/late 70's up into the 80's.. newer induction and computers have allowed compression to creep steadily upward since then.
lazs

glock22 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2003, 08:43:19 AM »

1.91 premium - Miami

Ripsnort · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2003, 08:58:36 AM »

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Gas prices are on a fast climb, up 13
percent in the past month in Washington
state, 9 percent nationally. The quick
increase raised the eyebrows yesterday of
the American Automobile Association
(AAA), the nation's largest motorist group.

"There is no shortage of gasoline, there is no shortage of crude," said Geoff
Sundstrom of the AAA's Chicago office. "I think we're getting very close" to price
gouging, he said.

Filling a typical 16-gallon tank today exceeds $20, with the national average
price for a gallon of regular unleaded gas at about $1.60. Washington's average
is slightly lower, at $1.56, but many pumps in the Puget Sound area are
pushing $1.70, about 50 cents more than they were last year.

"What we're seeing is the prices are going up very quickly in anticipation that
something might happen in the Middle East," said Janet Ray, spokeswoman for
AAA Washington. "The president's State of the Union message had a major
reference to (the threat of war in) Iraq."

Ray says she hasn't seen such a steep and rapid jump in prices since the
weeks between Presidents Day and Easter of 2000. The state's highest
recorded price for a gallon of regular unleaded fuel was $1.74 in October of that
year.

Gasoline prices in February usually aren't as high as they are this year because
people tend to drive less in the cold weather, Sundstrom said.

"We see nothing in the overall supply-and-demand picture to justify an increase
of that magnitude," he said. "It really appears to be little more than wholesalers
and retailers trying to anticipate the possible replacement costs of inventory" if
war with Iraq breaks out and shipments of Persian Gulf crude oil are disrupted,
he said.

But the American Petroleum Institute, an oil-industry trade group, said gasoline
prices merely reflect world petroleum markets.

In addition to the growing uncertainty in the petroleum-rich Middle East, a
two-month strike in Venezuela has slowed exports from there and a cold winter
in the eastern United States has drained supplies of heating oil.

"It's supply and demand," said Chris Kelley, spokesman for the institute.
"Crude-oil prices are extremely high, higher than they've been in an awfully long
time. And crude-oil prices are bringing gasoline prices upward."

Meanwhile, gasoline demand "has been growing steadily over the course of the
past year," Kelley said. Implied U.S. demand averaged about 8.76 million
barrels a day in January, up 2 percent from the same month in 2002, institute
data showed.

The demand is not coming from Corinne Woodward, 26, of north Seattle, who
traded in her gas-guzzling sport-utility vehicle for a four-door sedan, saving up to
$15 on a full tank.

"I loved that car, but that's a big reason I traded it in," Woodward said. "I look at
(gas prices) every day and it's just going up and up and up

capt. apathy · « **Reply #35 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:03:37 AM »

I believe imperial gallon = 5 qts
US gallon is 4

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LOL - Oregonian nannying.
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nothing to do with nannying, we just figure if you have to stand in the rain and pump gas you should be getting paid for it. it gives the kids a job so they don't have to steal car stereos. and the oil companys are going to charge as much as they can get away with anyway. we have found that you don't save any money with self-serve, they just use the self-serve option as an excuse to charge extra to have someone pump it.

with no self-serve we have comparable or cheaper prices than all near states (prices are about $.03 cheaper in Vancouver but are at or above oregon prices once you get up into washington. ), and thats their self serve price. you pay another $.30 or more to get it pumped for you in those states.

so we see it like this. if you want the option to pump it yourself you are going to have to pay a little extra for it, and then a lot extra if you want the same level of service you have now.

Mini D · « **Reply #36 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:18:22 AM »

Come on Apathy... beatle is just trying to get a rise out of ya. He's been pretty good lately, but he reverts back to it once in a while. If you fuel the flame... he's right back in it again.

He knows its a stupid statement... he just doesn't realize why he can't help but say it.

MiniD

capt. apathy · « **Reply #37 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:22:10 AM »

you gotta give him a little nibble every now and then. otherwise he may go fish'n somewhere else, and I kinda enjoy watching some of his fire-fights develop

Bodhi · « **Reply #38 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:37:49 AM »

.81 cents a gallon

Asheboro, NC

Then again we buy in bulk and sale is limited to private customers only.

Monk · « **Reply #39 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:41:40 AM »

1.20 juros.

Udie · « **Reply #40 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:58:01 AM »

Paid $1.65 this morning for mid grade, paid %1.55 just 2 days ago for the same thing. That's the most I've ever paid for gas. Part of it is because of winter, but I think it would be around $1.40 or $1.45 if not for the looming war....

capt. apathy · « **Reply #41 on:** February 12, 2003, 11:00:58 AM »

Bodhi
that must not include the road tax. we can get cheaper fuel if you have an ag license but they put dye in it and it's a huge tax evasion fine if you are found to have dye in your fuel in a non-ag vehicle.

Octavius · « **Reply #42 on:** February 12, 2003, 11:01:48 AM »

$1.79 in Milwaukee

Replicant · « **Reply #43 on:** February 12, 2003, 11:39:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Udie
Paid $1.65 this morning for mid grade, paid %1.55 just 2 days ago for the same thing. That's the most I've ever paid for gas. Part of it is because of winter, but I think it would be around $1.40 or $1.45 if not for the looming war....

How many grades do you have available?

We used to have 2 Star, 3 Star and 4 Star petrol but they all changed to just 4 Star in the 1980s.

4 Star used to be 98 RON (Octane)

Lead Replacement Petrol (LRP) is still 98 RON

Unleaded is 95 RON

Super Unleaded is 98 RON

beet1e · « **Reply #44 on:** February 13, 2003, 05:16:51 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Don't believe that they use the same octane rating method in every country.

In Britain, wherever you see the star rating for fuel, there's a reference to BS 4040 - British Standard. Do your own Google search for BS 4040 - it throws up some interesting stuff.

MiniD = AKDejaVu? Ah, that would explain it.

But why the handle change? Apathy: Can't see what Oregon rain has to do with anything. I would have thought there were wetter states.