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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2003, 03:38:58 PM »
You think so Eagler?

 You think there is no hope of the world seeing terrorism for what it is and standing against it?

Doesn't that just make you want to shake your head in despair? The U.S. cant stop it alone.

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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2003, 03:44:19 PM »
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The U.S. cant stop it alone.


Yes we can.

It'd be pretty messy.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2003, 03:52:09 PM »
Part of the solution to this problem is to create an alternate energy source that replaces oil. Without oil, the SNs would be left with nothing but sand and camels.
     

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2003, 03:52:12 PM »
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Imagine that this happens and then imagine that those say something like this and then imagine that this group react like that and then imagine blah blah blah...Wouldn't it be a shame?????!!!



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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2003, 03:56:23 PM »
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Geeez guys, some of you need an ice cold shower...


Wow.. yer right. Question... are those REAL showers, or the gas kind?

Another Question.. your government, a NATO signatory, has now twice elected to not support military action against Saddam.

How do you feel personally?
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2003, 05:21:41 PM »
A 'dirty bomb' would probably kill about 20 people...maybe 50. Dirty bombs are high on 'terror' but low on lethality.

Nerve gas...depends on what type and how and where it's released. But 50,000 is a very high #. Remember - some was released on a Tokyo subway - in a subway car - surprisingly few fatalities.

I'm not commenting on 'what would happen' per your post here...just saying '50,000' would require a nuclear fission weapon or some really, really nasty bio weapon and even then the CDC is very alert for bio type weapons and is getting 'more alert' (with regards to spotting transmission vectors) on a weekly basis. There's alot of smart doctors at the CDC.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2003, 05:41:56 PM »
God help them if they bombed anywhere in GB.

Now if they bombed France, that would be a different story entirely.

I'm fairly certain that many countries feel the same about the U.S.

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2003, 03:07:27 PM »
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Ok say a terrorist group sets of a dirty bomb or releases nerve gas, in a U.S.  City, it kills 50,000 Americans.


50,000 Americans.

What then, does all the squabbling in the UN stop, will all the "its all about oil or a U.S. conspiracy" people wake up? Do all the countries in the world, that do not support terrorism stop and think they could be next?

When is the world going to realize this is more then a minor threat, and that terrorists need to be hunted and killed, like the dogs they are.

We need to be utterly ruthless and kill them all, to make terrorism so a bad choice people do not do it anymore...

Will it happen?  Thoughts?

It is just a mater of time before they killl more..


The trouble with the "kill them all" way of going about it is it will ensure much more fanatical terrorists wanting to eliminate more Americans. I believe the possibility is very strong that we'll suffer tremendous losses in future terrorist attacks against Americans because we'll be creating those very terrorists.
The questions we should be asking and answering are these:
1) What have we done, are doing, will do that cause those to hate us so much to sacrifice their own lives in order to try to kill us? (Check our own history)
2) What can we do to prevent that very fanatical mindset?
Prevention is the best policy. BTW if you truly think that they hate us because of jealousy of our freedoms and way of life then you've lost the war.
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2003, 04:58:09 PM »
The next major attack will most likley be  in Europe somewhere.  There are many more cells of the bad guys within Europe, look how many they have caught in the past few months.

What will happen when it happens in Paris or Munich?

They will run to us for help,  and we will help them because thats what we do.

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2003, 08:21:29 PM »
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Ok say a terrorist group sets of a dirty bomb or releases nerve gas, in a U.S.  City, it kills 50,000 Americans.


50,000 Americans.

What then, does all the squabbling in the UN stop, will all the "its all about oil or a U.S. conspiracy" people wake up? Do all the countries in the world, that do not support terrorism stop and think they could be next?

When is the world going to realize this is more then a minor threat, and that terrorists need to be hunted and killed, like the dogs they are.

We need to be utterly ruthless and kill them all, to make terrorism so a bad choice people do not do it anymore...

Will it happen?  Thoughts?

It is just a mater of time before they killl more..


OK - this isn't about Iraq, this sin;t about politics per se, we're talking about the next terrorist atrocity.

Ever hear of 'trickle down'. Well it works in the world of mass destructive weapons. Once only US had atomic weapons, then russia, china france UK (Security council). Now india, pakistan, NK, israel, and others.

So basically, as we spend billions of quid developing new and more sophisticated strategic weapons, we can pretty much guarantee that within 50-60 years every hothead fanatic will have access to them too.

It will happen if there are enough people with grudges (however misplaced) against Europe and the West from whom the most violent and thoughtless can be recruited for yet more unspeakable acts of terror.

Terrorism is as old as humanity, it's the means that change.

As the IRA said to Margaret Thatcher after the Brighton Bombing...

"We only need to be lucky once, you need to be lucky always."

What happens after? Well it all depends on whether it is evenpossible to ascertain who did 'it'. And even then, leaving glowing holes in the earth all over, say, the middle east, won't bring it to an end, merely intensify the fanaticism of the perpetrators, wherever they may be hiding.

Intelligence is one part of the equation. Good intelligence is the best weapon of all, sometimes it can avoid you ever having to fire a shot.

But to try and lessen the chances of it happening, we need to seriously rethink our attitude to the rest of the world that lies outside the Euro/Anglophone western democratic block.

We haven't always been unpopular and hated enough to inspire terrorism, but our actions in various places have done much to foster an environment where terrorism can prosper.

And until we deal with causes, the symptoms won't go away. They just become more acute.

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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2003, 08:47:12 PM »
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what will we do?


Lets see I'd warn everyone, if I remember my U.S. army hand signals, hands over eyes indicate atomic detonation.   This way everyone will know to run, duck and cover.

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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2003, 09:12:24 PM »
1. Find out who's responsible.

2. Show evidence to UN.

3. Listen to the French wail.

4. Go do what we gotta do.



Bounder.. nice piece. I enjoyed that. I suspect you and I will both agree that untill we pop the pimple on the mideasts bellybutton (israel) ain't anybody here or over there gonna be sitting real comfortably in crowded places.
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2003, 04:31:09 AM »
Well said Bounder.

I think there should be 'overwhelming' attention thrown at the Israel situation. Get the bastards on both sides around a table with a gun to their heads and tell them we're going nuke the entire region, including Israel and the Palestinians, unless they agree to a compromise settlement involving a *genuine* Palestinian State and an Arab recognised Israel.

Oh, and find the nearest cliff and push both Shraon and Arafat off it.

But of course, all of this is fantasy. It will never happen. And the Israeli Troubles will continue to be an advertisement for anti-Western extremists.
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2003, 06:52:01 AM »
The entire thread was worth reading for the last posts



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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2003, 07:08:09 AM »
it isn’t about Israel

it isn’t about the US and her policies

it is about "HATE" .. the current level of man's enlightenment & spiritual consciousness..

as long as man can find hate in his heart, he'll find an excuse/reason to express it and a target to aim it at...

some ppl are only "HAPPY" when they "HATE"
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