Author Topic: Is the M-8 Good at anything? (Read 804 times)

Batz · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2003, 03:22:03 PM »

you do know the difference betwen the tiger and other gvs dont you? If you had actually killed a tiger with that gun, even at point blank range, that would be more of a concern then it doing nothing.

Heres a tip the m8 gun shouldnt kill a tiger. Why do you think it should?

If you followed this thread you would see that its not an anti tank weapon. And you surely dont wanna trade shots at any range with a tiger.

28sweep · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2003, 03:27:59 PM »

Never said it should dumb-ass. I just hoped it would disable the turrent. Thats for the great advice donutHEAD.

Batz · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2003, 03:33:11 PM »

sure you did, its implied in the fact that you actually tried it.

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I used it for the first time last night and I wasn't impressed. I drove right up to a Tiger and point blank shot him with some AP rounds on his turrent. Three rounds on his turrent at pointblank range did nothing.

You clearly expected the improbrable.

Chairboy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2003, 04:04:37 PM »

Using the M8 to shoot the front of a tank is silly. If you want to attack a Tiger w/ an M8, get behind him and fire into the engine compartment.

Reschke · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2003, 05:24:04 PM »

The only time I even come close to attacking any tank in an M8 is when I am forced into it. I would rather run circles with the following group of vehicles for town taking: 2 x M8 (town destruction), 2 x M16 (AA coverage), 2 x M3 (troops and a backup). All are capable of moving fast and doing damage to enemy aircraft that could be harrassing you. Sometimes we mix in a couple of PzIV's for anti-armor especially on Ye 'Ol Pizza where you all spawn on top of each other.

illo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2003, 04:23:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Using the M8 to shoot the front of a tank is silly. If you want to attack a Tiger w/ an M8, get behind him and fire into the engine compartment.

37mm popgun doesnt much tickle Tigers rear. Tigers rear and sides are about 80mm of armor. Front is 100-200mm(mantle).

So whatever position you shoot from...you can't hurt him.

Fishu · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2003, 05:40:16 AM »

Theres actually a historical record of M8 killing a Tiger, from behind at very close range

It must been like 30 meters of range if I remember correctly.
What comes to details, if I remember correctly again... it's so long time I read the account.. there was no real penetrations, but some of the hits caused something to dislocate, which caused a fire in the engine and thereby loss of the tank.

However killing Tiger with the 37mm pop gun would be more of a luck than a rule.

I wonder how HTC has modelled penetration for the guns.
If HTC used historical test data and from US & German sources and didn't take differences in the test methods into count, then there can be some errors.
Like yanks were happy if they saw a 'light through the crack', while germans expected full penetration.

28sweep · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2003, 07:04:42 AM »

Hey Ding-Batz why do you insist on reading my mind? I'm much to complex for you donutHead.

Shiva · « **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2003, 11:05:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Theres actually a historical record of M8 killing a Tiger, from behind at very close range It must been like 30 meters of range if I remember correctly.

a wartime report from the 7th Armored Division while in Belgium in December of 1944:

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While northern and eastern flanks had been heavily engaged, the northeastern section had been rather quiet. The only excitement there had been was when an M8 armored car from "E" Troop destroyed a Tiger tank. The armored car had been in a concealed position at right angles to run along a trail in front of the MLR. As the tank passed the armored car, the M8 slipped out of position and started up the trail behind the Tiger, accelerating in an attempt to close. At the same moment the German tank commander saw the M8, and started traversing his gun to bear on the armored car. It was a race between the Americans who were attempting to close so that their puny 37-mm would be effective in the Tiger’s "Achilles heel" (its thin rear armor), and the Germans who were desperately striving to bring their "88" to bear … Suddenly, the M8 had closed to 25 yards, and quickly pumped in 3 rounds… the lumbering Tiger stopped, shuddered; there was a muffled explosion, followed by flames which bellowed out of the turret and engine ports, after which the armored car returned to its position.

28sweep · « **Reply #24 on:** February 13, 2003, 11:45:24 AM »

Great info. Shiva...thankyou........

Ridge · « **Reply #25 on:** February 14, 2003, 01:57:37 PM »

Its really really good at being an easy target for almost any other gv in the game...