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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2003, 08:35:29 PM »
Coke had cocaine in it...LOL, ya I hate having to add it now days.

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2003, 11:20:31 PM »
no kiddin a can a coke would cost 250.00 to day:D

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2003, 01:07:38 AM »
I dont recall the P-40E in the last Burma set. Was it?  I'll gladly take it, but it maybe to much for some:p


 Speaking of Coke, im drinking a diet vanilla Coke(im fat) and it contains Phenylketonurics. WTF is that?:confused:
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2003, 02:34:15 AM »
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Originally posted by Sakai
My first outings were in Burma using this exact planeset and it was fun.  

I don't remember the E being in earlier Burma setups.  Guess I could be mistaken.  If it was, I'm sure it waxed my bellybutton in the early Zeke.

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Heh heh. Work with the A6M2 just a bit and you'll find that it's uber (P40E may be a problem).  

Precisely my point, oldman.

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2003, 06:26:25 AM »
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so

shut up and deal with it.


I do, but it is making the CT as redundant as the MA, and at some point all the CTers will drop their accounts (this is not uncommon in my brief time here)  because they don't want historic matchup MA vultching fests.

It simply was a different place, not long ago.  You might stop trying to pretend differently and deal with that?  Or go diddly yourself, whichever you feel does the most for you.



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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2003, 09:36:26 AM »
oooh ouch sakai,

as shane would say stfu, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2003, 09:59:29 AM »
Saw those old kill stats, and I bet we are going to see about the same this time (for the b).  Really the only move a p40b has on this zero is a diving spiral at high speed.  And this is tough too.  These zekes just hold together too well in a dive.  I think it will be a good fight though, team tactics are going to be the only way to keep a p40b in the air.  P40e does seem a bit good for the zero, but as soon as it comes to an acceleration race, the zero has it.  And of course the zero will rip you apart as soon as you get slow.    If you keep the p40e fast, you have better climb, and better speed (low at least) so they hold a pretty good advantage.

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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2003, 12:58:55 PM »
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oooh ouch sakai,

as shane would say stfu, you have no idea what you are talking about.



Ooooh, Shane would say it?  Oh, man , I am scared now!!!!

Maybe next you can get a note from your mommy so you can really retort?  If only your sister would let you up and stop farting on oreos and cramming them down your throat you might respond in a naughty manner?

What a waste of protein.

Is that you're best shot?

What a popsicle.  Little weenies like you who don't like people to address actual issues can blow me junior.  Read it again:  blow me.

Until then I'll quake in fear at your latest, unthinking, and unoriginal response.

Loser.

I get to squeak about what I want to, and if you don't like it, then you can go diddly yourself.

Clear it up for you any, Nancy boy?  Be sure and get permission to come back and get mean on me.

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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2003, 01:41:13 PM »
hhehe  somebody got a little upset didnt they?

In the end you are the one that cant stop crying.


I am looking forward to flying both sides of this map, I think the weekend matchup will be a good one for the a6m2 but not sure about when the p40e comes in.

I think sakai should switch sides if he doesnt have friends to fly with.  Were you not in the 27th sentai or something?  Get yourself some squad mates in the ct, maybe that will help your numbers problem.  

I tend to do a couple of things when the numbers are against me.

1.  I find a place where the numbers are not so bad, and change my techniques so i dont fly low in slow with more than 2 enemy around me.
2.  I fly a bomber and give them something bigger to shoot at.
3.  I shut the diddly up and let people have a good time without seeing my whiny little crap on channel 1, or the bb for that matter.


thank you.

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Well, I flew 'em both in the CT yesterday.......
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2003, 03:47:43 PM »
And IMO it all comes down to the pilot of each plane.
I flew the P-40B first, got into a few fights with high Zekes, got a couple kills, then landed to even the sides and try out the Zeke.
P-40B can outroll the Zeke as the speed increases, only time I have found that you are gonna see that is when the bad guy in the Zeke is on your six.  You are not going to outclimb the Zeke, the P-40B is not fast enough to run away, and you sure cannot outturn one.  Two fifty calibers and four pea shooters in the B model versus the two 20mm cannon in the Zeke.  Firepower in this matchup goes to the Zeke.
Switched to the Zeke, did what I thought I needed to do, climbed hard after takeoff.......Zeke will hold a 3K a minute climb rate if you do it manually, keep your airspeed at 100mph IAS.  Sure, it wallows a bit as you get higher, but climb rate in this setup goes to the Zeke.
Go level, first thing I noticed was how much more quickly the Zeke accelerated than the P-40B.  Almost the whole time I had been in the B, my airspeed hovered at 200-215IAS, would only climb above that if I leveled her off for an extended time period (which I did not have, too many Zekes prowling around) or if I stuck her nose down.  Zeke will just plain out accelerate the P-40B in level flight, initial E states being equal.
So, now I come over the enemy base, 15K alt, looking for victims.  
See a couple P-40's and a Hurri below me, chasing a friendly.  Throttle back and head down, sideslip a bit to keep the speed down, ease in behind a P-40 at d90.......only my poor gunnery kept me from getting an easy kill.  My intended "victim" split S'd down and headed for the field acks, so I let him go.  Went over and killed the Hurri driver, then decided to help out with a P-40 that one of my comrades was furring with.
Landed two kills on that sortie, then I had to head to work.
Saying the P-40E will be uber is, IMHO, total BS.  It will maybe even out the odds on the firepower issue, but the A6M2 still flies a long time when you set it on fire, while the P-40's go down fast.  
Fellas, my long winded response can be summarized easily:  Fly the available planes to their strengths, and you will be competitive.  Trying to turnfight a Zeke in a P-40 is suicide.  You might get lucky a time or two (hehehe..... Chanzzz) but you are only playing the game their way.  The A6M2 in AH can be dived to over 500mph (RL NTE speed was 340-350 from all I have read) so I think a careful Zeke driver can play the BnZ game with the P-40's if he plays smart.  Wanna drive a P-40 guy nuts?   Keep the fight low, where he cannot dive for speed once you get him slow.  Get in close, use your cannon in short bursts, and you WILL get kills.  
Bottom line:  Don't be so quick to blame the planeset if you keep getting killed.  Instead, look at HOW you are flying a particular plane.  Then go from there.
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2003, 05:04:10 PM »
I agree with your words on the current planeset, but the p40e will outclimb an a6m2 buy a good amount low, and is quite a bit faster.  I believe the 6 fifties are more lethal than the anemic zero load out as well.  Of course the acceleration situation hasnt changed, so if you fly like a fool, they will eat you up.

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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2003, 08:52:21 PM »
"3. I shut the diddly up and let people have a good time without seeing my whiny little crap on channel 1, or the bb for that matter. "  Yeah,  he takes it out on me on the squad Ch:D

    Who's fault is it anyway if you get "faceshot" or "gangbanged"? It happens to all of us at one time or another, but do you put yourself in that position on purpose then squeak about it? Are you one of these guys who insists on flying alone and then spouts off on Ch 1 about " well, it took 4 of you to get me" ? Just asking. I do know that erg can piss a guy off but he does have a point. Your reply was out of line and stupid.

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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2003, 06:32:29 PM »
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We just say Normal so we can do whatever and it is ok
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2003, 09:14:20 AM »
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hhehe  somebody got a little upset didnt they?

In the end you are the one that cant stop crying.
thank you.


No, I simply don't like morons telling me what I can and cannot say, and when you shot your mouth off, that's what you were doing.  I know you think you own the place, amazinhunk, but since you don't, please don't tell me what it is I am or am not, ok sissy ass?  Punks like you don't add anything to the world in general, much less a game, junior.

I'm not crying about anything, if I was I wouldn't be here anymore.  Being as I am still here, your argument is patently false.

I get up into CT almost daily/nightly, seems that if one switches sides lately to even things out, there is a contingent that is into gangbanging and face shooting, even vultching and yes:  land grabbing.  Now, to say this wasn't the case even a few months back is wrong, and so many are asking:  "What has changed in CT"?

Now, I don't run from fights like you rutabagas do, we can all imagine what a brave moron like yourself would say if one did, so I'll give anything a sporting shot, simply for the fun of it and knowing that 4 guys circling endlessly need something to do.  I mean, what's life for if not teh challenge?   But when one engages 3 on 1 (as it's often the only available fight and the option is to not fly at all) and you're face shot and vultched . . .well, that's a game for retards like you who rationalize your behavior with such easily falsifiable statements as these.

So think about it:  well meaning behavior or mouthy retards?  Hmmm . . ..which would I rather associate with?  Gee that is a hard choice junior, it really is!  

No one's crying dick-head, so listen carefully now:  Simply stating it like it is--lots of CT guys saying same thing.  Only a few gangbangers that really argue the point.

And that makes you?  

Thanks for trying though, you'll see that if you want an actual response, you simply need respond without pointing fingers and whining about someone's opinion, rather than run your mouth at first light and spout a postulate as stupid and errant as yours was.  

See, your complaint really becomes:  "I'm sick of hearing about what an amazinhunk I am" which means:  "Stop being an amazinhunk" doesn't it?  Again, no one complains about fair fights, even lopsided ones--no one.

I don't mind squads, or 3, 4, 5 on 1s, as noted, I will try anything for the fun of it--but being a dickhead about it is, well, really a game for retards like yourself.  Please continue to rationalize this behavior as much as you like.

If you stop and think about it, if you reason at all, there's no other explanation.  

Thanks for trying though, I like it when, uhmm,  really smart guys like you think you know what makes me tick.

So, what is it?  What changed in CT to make some guys bring their MA act there and then proudly claim they built the place and eveyrthing before it?

My squad upped there last night first time ever.  I told 'em:  no HOs guys, the Ki-67 is overmodeled for the planeset so if we do that, it's for grins but let's try the planes they used first."  And we did the Val/A6m2 run.  Had a blast doing it, too!


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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2003, 09:29:16 AM »
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"3. I shut the diddly up and let people have a good time without seeing my whiny little crap on channel 1, or the bb for that matter. "  Yeah,  he takes it out on me on the squad Ch:D

    Who's fault is it anyway if you get "faceshot" or "gangbanged"? It happens to all of us at one time or another, but do you put yourself in that position on purpose then squeak about it? Are you one of these guys who insists on flying alone and then spouts off on Ch 1 about " well, it took 4 of you to get me" ? Just asking. I do know that erg can piss a guy off but he does have a point. Your reply was out of line and stupid.


No, I don't complain about being killed like that, and I never think it took anyone much of anything to shoot me down.  I don't think that if I have a guy 3 to 1 that I need to HO to "score" and when I first got on CT, I was told expressly that this was the behavior we sought to cultivate in CT.  It is simple:

What has changed in the CT?

And please don't excuse stupid behavior by saying my response is over the top, I know that, that's the point:  to tell dickhead there to wise up and not run his mouth if he wants a civil conversation.  It's always the guys crying "Hey stop whining" that really run their mouths the most, that is, whine the most.  I mean, is there anything more assinine than a guy whining about what he feels is whining?  That's the logic you're defending, I can't imagine the stupidity of that kind of logic.  

That's the point.  Sorry if the subtlety of such points isn't borne well on text mediums such as this or emails.

Are you in my squad? I don't think so, one or two guys in my squad fly there occasionally so I don't use Squad channel there, never.  

If one assumes everyone will faceshoot, one has to faceshoot to defend one's self.  I was told when I started flying there we did not want the MA mentality in CT.  Hey, I go to MA to do the Lemming thing ok?  In CT, I epxect better behavior.  

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