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Offline john9001

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2003, 03:48:42 PM »
FDR's first vice-prez ( not truman, he was 2nd) was later found out to be a communist, can you imagen what would have happened if he was still vice-prez when FDR died

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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2003, 03:51:29 PM »
civil rights issues past sooner maybe.

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2003, 04:24:57 PM »
Muckmaw

certainly a dramatic proposal, to pull out of the rest of the world.. I like it.. it made me think how the world is so whiny about the US being the only superpower left.. but it was the rest of the world that MADE us a superpower.. turn the clock back to the late 30's.. the US was the world military equivilant of Iraq.. something like the 16th largest army..a crappy navy and a few planes.. we were a military joke.. until the 'sleeping giant' was awoken.

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2003, 04:38:44 PM »
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... Let the Germans roll over the French...


Tempting ... very very tempting ... Hey straffo maybe we could meet then and drink a beer or a glass of wine?

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2003, 04:48:20 PM »
Certainly Duedel the question would  be what wine :)
Both of our country have good whine I've still a very good "souvenir" of a pretty good wine from the "Rhin" (sorry I don't know the German name :( of this region)


What about a Tokay ?

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2003, 05:17:59 PM »
Don't forget your other allies in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Call it the Anglosphere.

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2003, 05:23:03 PM »
qts , just because they almost speak our language don't mean they our allies, or friends

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2003, 06:49:32 PM »
The U.S. Insulation Policy did not keep the U.S. out of WW1. Well, had the U.S. cut off all trade to avoid damage and death in their Ships sailing the high seas, maybe yes......
Neither did it keep the U.S. out of WW2. Well, self to blame, for the U.S. had been fiddling with the politics in the far east. Japan attacked, and Hitler declaired war on the U.S. (seeing that inevitably they would become allies with the Brits against the Japanese)
So, there may be a point there. Although the U.S. had a passive policy and declaired themself neutral, they still had their fingers all over the world, - the "passive" policy was never properly put to the test.
So, sever all foreign connection to the US. Dock the ships, seal the airports, cut off all trade and be your own masters.
Wonder how that's gonna help you from someone that wants to pick a fight with you though..............
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2003, 07:32:45 PM »
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Well, self to blame, for the U.S. had been fiddling with the politics in the far east.


Yeah. we got a lil annoyed that the japs were raping manchuria.

imagine that.
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...at home, or abroad.

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2003, 08:50:05 PM »
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Yeah. we got a lil annoyed that the japs were raping manchuria.

imagine that.


That horrible event wasnt known until long after the war.

It played no "woe is them" factor in the US aiding China.

Not that I'm being apologetic to era Japan, the murderous bastards, but lets keep history objective.

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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2003, 08:59:12 PM »
You refer to Nanking.

I'm refering to the so-called 'northern resource area'. The US was less than charmed with the Japanese developing material resources that we couldn't sell 'em.
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2003, 09:00:47 PM »
I stand corrected

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2003, 09:15:40 PM »
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That horrible event wasnt known until long after the war.

It played no "woe is them" factor in the US aiding China.

Not that I'm being apologetic to era Japan, the murderous bastards, but lets keep history objective.


Not true Animal, word got out pretty much immidiately and caused a great embarassment to the Japanese government.

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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2003, 09:28:18 PM »
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It's an attractive idea.  Think of how much we could reduce taxes if we didn't have to provide defense for half the world.


US doesn't provide defense for half the world, they're there to cover their own interests.
You'd think there would be any americans anywhere in middle east, if there wouldn't be oil?
How about Panama?

etc. etc.


US is the one causing problems for the western world, not the europe :)

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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2003, 09:48:04 PM »
I agree entirely with Muckmaw. The world is ungrateful. And yes the US does it 50% out of its own interests, but hey I don't see any other country doing it out of pure 'love'.

And btw, I'm not a yank.