Author Topic: US cancels aid package to Turkey (Read 1033 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #30 on:** March 03, 2003, 07:07:16 PM »

Turkey has reason to...they do not want US troops lingering after Iraq is freed from Saddams reign of terror. Kurds want N. Iraq to become a separate country, "Kurdistan" and Turkey doesn't want that. They be free to spank the Kurds around like Iraq did.

This scenario actually works out for everyones arguement, those who say they were being "bought"(Which they were not, see Ammo's post) can say "Good, they can't be bought" and they can also claim bad diplomacy. Others can say "Good, I'm sick of the US kissing butt to a country like Turkey" while in the same breath can say "We'll stand on our own, we don't need Turkeys help and we CERTAINLY won't be blackmailed further"

Either side of the arguement, its a win win situation.

Pongo · « **Reply #31 on:** March 03, 2003, 07:49:58 PM »

The Turks have been well paid for their services for the last 50 years...

Hangtime · « **Reply #32 on:** March 03, 2003, 08:43:42 PM »

"will you sleep with me for 20 bucks?? No?? How about a million bucks?"

'If yah had a million, I'd do it'.

"slut."

look.. I ain't sayin turkeys a slut.. they turned the deal down.

fact is, turkey's been screwed by nato before, been ignored by us, used as a gameplay pawn against the russians for 50 years and is now looking at the most hostile buncha anti-turk ravening nutcases on the planet camped just over the border in iraq. the kurds. they hate each other with a ferocity that would scare the toejam outta a bosnian or a serb. croats are in kindergarden by turkish-kurdish standards.

i ain't sure what it is that turkey wants.. but they FOR SURE don't want an independent kurdish state on their southern border.

otoh, if we diddly the kurds in this iraq/turkey deal, we'll have the most ravening blood thirsty dispossesed pack of people on the planet looking at us with an exceptionally evil eye. we FOR SURE don't wanna piss off the kurds.

'kurdistan' is just ONE hot potato in a whole bowl of steamers.

-ammo- · « **Reply #33 on:** March 03, 2003, 09:15:53 PM »

The Kurds? A nomadic people with very limited resources. . I don't think too many folks outside of those that have the kurdish within their borders are concerned about them. Additionally, these folks are not exactly innocent either, and I am sure that the Turks, Iragi's, Syrians, etc would say the same. During OPERATION PROVIDE COMFORT, the US would launch mil airlift of supplies destined for the kurdish folks being persecuted (or suppressed, depends on who is speaking) by Saddam Husein (among others persecuting them..for years). It was fairly ironic that we would launch some of these airlift missions from Incirlik AB and not long after that, the Turks would launch their own fighters and gunships to conduct combat ops against the kurds from the very same runways.

BTW, we already have a significant amount of US personnel in Turkey, and they are spreadout all over the country. They perform all kinds of functions ranging from ONW- to spying on the Russians (cough, I mean we USED too), Syrians, Iraqi's..

Hangtime · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2003, 09:33:51 PM »

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I don't think too many folks outside of those that have the kurdish within their borders are concerned about them.

Palestine? Palestinians? Suicide Bombings? Hammas?

Make the connection yet?

Don't shuffle the Kruds aside as meaningless. they'll wind up being the new Palestinians if not handled very freakin carefully...

They need their own state.. and it needs it's borders with Turkey set up as a DMZ with Blue Helmets between 'em.

-ammo- · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2003, 09:40:39 PM »

I guess I should have been clearer. Those countries that have kurds within theri borders are concerned with them. They are islamic extremists and militant in nature.

So we are kicking the same horse.

Hangtime · « **Reply #36 on:** March 03, 2003, 10:00:45 PM »

ooops! rgr. sorry.

carry on.

-ammo- · « **Reply #37 on:** March 03, 2003, 10:13:15 PM »

you da man