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Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2003, 05:50:56 PM »
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Umm.. but they didn't hit it single time with the big bombs
Problem was that the shockwave caused the ship to capsize...

The first raid scored one hit despite smoke obscuring the target. It went straight through the deck near the bow, but emerged through the hull, below the waterline, before exploding.

On the second raid, the Tirpitz was obscured by cloud, and no hits were scored, although a near miss caused some prop damage.

The third raid scored 2 hits, one level with the bridge, one level with C turret. There was an internal explosion blowing C turret off, and the Tirpitz capsized.

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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2003, 05:57:46 PM »
There were only 854 TALLBOY's & 41 GRAND SLAM bombs dropped operationally during WW 2.

Would be interesting to see what they would do to a target though! :D

 My problem is getting the damn things on target! They completely screwed the bombsite when the switched it up. I realize the bombsights weren't like the laser bombsights we used to have but neither were they as bad as the crappy version we have now. At least you could hit a city with the damn thing.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2003, 06:55:10 PM »
As far as I know, it was 3 near misses of tall boys which capsized Tirpitz.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2003, 01:55:40 AM »
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Originally posted by Andijg
There were only 854 TALLBOY's & 41 GRAND SLAM bombs dropped operationally during WW 2.

Would be interesting to see what they would do to a target though! :D

 My problem is getting the damn things on target! They completely screwed the bombsite when the switched it up. I realize the bombsights weren't like the laser bombsights we used to have but neither were they as bad as the crappy version we have now. At least you could hit a city with the damn thing.



How many A-bombs were dropped? 2
Is the A-bomb the most requested bomb? Yes

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2003, 01:15:44 AM »
andijg, almost all bombsight where far worse than what we have now.  I have heared that some japanese bombsights where little more than holes in the floor of the bomber.

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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2003, 08:21:56 AM »
That would be cool to see 12,000# bombs for killing tanks, I was about  a mile away from Roseville,Ca. tracks when the munitions train blew up with 500 and 1000# bombs, my left  ear is 80% deaf from it ,being there gave me a very good idea what being in London was like during the blitz with explosives landing everywhere,and chunks of smoking metal passing thru our roof even bombs landing in our backyard(luckily not exploding). Thats why i wonder seeing 1000# bombs in this game land next to tanks and it doesnt do anything, when I'm pretty sure it would at the very least kill the entire crew from the overpressure and probably take out multiple internal systems if the modeling for bombs is correct. I dont bother with bombs in this game since i've found that a single rocket can kill a tank easier.

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2003, 09:25:28 AM »
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andijg, almost all bombsight where far worse than what we have now.  I have heared that some japanese bombsights where little more than holes in the floor of the bomber.


I remember seeing a film clip on one of the History Channel presentations showing an early-war bombsight that was an L-shaped bracket with two sliders -- the slider on the vertical arm was moved up to mark your plane's altitude, the slider on the horizontal arm was moved forward to mark your plane's speed; each slider had a pedestal to a sight ball; the bombardier adjusted his position so that he was looking down the sight line defined by the two sight balls (try doing that while the plane is bouncing around), and the spot on the ground marked by the sight was where the bombs were expected to hit.

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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2003, 12:14:46 PM »
EXPECTED.........

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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2003, 12:59:42 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2003, 04:39:59 PM »
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andijg, almost all bombsight where far worse than what we have now.  I have heared that some japanese bombsights where little more than holes in the floor of the bomber.


This is true. Some bombs that were dropped on germany actually landed in BELGIUM!!.

Often bombs fell up to 5 miles(!!!) off target so we have an extrememly good sight even though it is a bit of a pain to use.

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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2003, 05:16:05 PM »
Once an American crew bombed England!!!

He (the navigator) said the map had the wrong types of grids, lol!

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2003, 08:56:50 PM »
Didnt the Nagasaki a-bomb land over the hill, in the wrong valley, cutting the damage in half?  And that was with radar guidance!

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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2003, 04:06:36 AM »
the only truly accurate bombing of WWII was done by the british, who achieved bomb accuracies of less than 100 yards, by night, using radio navigation devices.

In several mosquito attacks, the accuracy was as good as putting all bombs in less than 50 yards from the target, and hitting it directly several times.


Optical sights were never, by far, good compared with the british radio navigation systems applied to precision bombing by night.

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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2003, 09:20:59 AM »
Fishu:
My source states that they DID hit 2 or 3 times. Another source also states that 1 of the direct hit peeled a 100 feet off the deck. She did capzise from near misses though, that is true as well.
RRam:
 How about the German navigation aid, Knickebein and the X-Gerat? Were they not quite effective as well?
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2003, 12:57:06 AM »
the Germans did a pretty good job on Coventry city center in late 40-early 41 with radio guidance

What I would like would be the option of adjusting spacing in the formation so the blast areas of the large eggs dropped do not overlap, reducing total area of destruction.
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