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« Reply #165 on: March 11, 2003, 11:07:12 PM »
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What other than this should be expected  from the 'Holy Crusade Team'


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France is threatened by Germany in no way, it's just plain rediculous (circa 1938)

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« Reply #166 on: March 11, 2003, 11:11:26 PM »
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now, calling these "dirty tricks", that's going too far.
Dirty tricks is having the cameroon delegate get caught receiving a BJ from Monica Lewinsnki.


Now thats a dirty trick:p

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« Reply #167 on: March 11, 2003, 11:13:05 PM »
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We just don't like Bush and his crew, no biggy.


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« Reply #168 on: March 11, 2003, 11:15:08 PM »
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Don't make it worse :)


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« Reply #169 on: March 11, 2003, 11:18:35 PM »
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1.America protected it's allies against communismn.

2.Don't forget: We followed America the last 60 years and we got what we wanted and wont do so again.

Regards Blitz


By the way Udie,  call me names please, it gives me strange pleasure.



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« Reply #170 on: March 11, 2003, 11:51:47 PM »
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Again Toad, deal with your ugly friends in Kuwait, Sauth- Arabia, Agypt, Pakistan and other first, then im convinced.


Saudi Arabia's principal import sources, 2001:
1 United States 17.7%
2 Japan 10.4%
3 Germany 7.9%
4 United Kingdom 6.5%
5 Italy 4.7%
7 Australia 4.0%

Top 10 Sources of Imports in Pakistan (1998-2002 in Million US $)  
 
UAE  1353.9
KSA  1200.7
Kuwait 731.8
USA 687.8
China 676.2
Japan 519.3
Malaysia 456.3
Germany  439.6



Kuwait Trading Partners

1999 (Jan-June) US$m %
   
USA 705 32.7
Japan 350 16.2
UK 277 12.9
Germany 248 11.5
France 92 4.3
Australia 88 4.1

Egypt - Germany trade is 706 billion Deutchmarks
Egypt-Germany, Economics, 7/31/1998

Peter Dingens, Germany's ambassador in Cairo, praised yesterday Germany's close relations with Egypt in varying fields, adding that his country is the second-largest commercial partner for Egypt after the U.S.




Seems like we're not the only ones with "ugly friends".

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« Reply #171 on: March 12, 2003, 12:14:01 AM »
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It's bulwark  = german Bollwerk


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2. We're not asking you to follow us.  You guys have a free country.  We (really all I can speak for is myself) are asking you not to get in our way with sadaam.  He's evil and we will take him out,  it is the right thing to do and it's not about oil.  What shroeder did to get reelected was/is unforgivable to me.    And you're efforts in the war on terrorism are apreciated here, except maybe giving that terrorist only 15 years for his part in 9/11.  How about send him to England where he would at least get life.


*Every country has its own laws.

I dislike Gerhard Schroeders politics  concerning Iraq too as it looks like an election issue and most likely is. Not the first time i say this on this board.*


Why not send the perpetrator to the country that he commited the crime against?

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3.  I don't think I called you a name, it's not my style anymore.  I've done it in the past but it doesn't really help in an argument.  That being said,  you would be utterly amazed at the amount of text I have written to/about you and then deleted before hitting the "submit reply" button :D

 

*I didn't said America is bad . But it's no disneyland world,  people living there and these people could as easily be wrong as anywhere else on the globe.

How do you feed us, not sure what you meant ?*

No you didn't say it was, but you infer that. You also insult our elected leader, and while many of us do the same to you, it's because of his attitude towards us. How did the tax payers of America feed your country??? Read your own recent history, if it hasn't been so altered that there isn't any mention of the US aid that has been given to your country for decades.

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5.  I don't hate Germany.  I have some German friends and they are great people.  Hell,  a large part of central Texas was settled by Germans in the mid 1800's.  There is a LOT of German herritige all around us here in Austin.  France is another matter, they suck.
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*If ya don't hate it why you threaten it all the time with economical war ? Bash on it's goverment if ya like, that's fine with me.*

It's government determines its economic status. Unfortunately for France, it seems it's largest economic 'customer' has been Iraq for the last few years. You seem to be fairly intelligent, figure out what a regime change in Iraq will mean for France. I don't have anything against any person of French origin in particular, but the governments' policy right now has me concerned.

6.  As much as you piss me off,  and you REALLY DO,  I don't hate you either.  If we ever met,  I'm sure we'd have lots in common and could have a good time together.  It's just that you are so wrong on this Iraq thing it's mind boggling.  AND you are so wrong about Bush.  He's our president, not yours.  Like him or not,  a majority of the USA aproves of the job he is doing.  I think he could be doing better on the domestic side myself, but he's got a large part of the senate blocking him at all times.  Considering the toejam he's had to face since he took office I think he is doing an outstanding job. AND at least he didn't turn our population against an ally of 60 years to win the election.

 now I'm off to get laid :D [/B][/QUOTE]


*Well, i don't hate ya either , why should i.

I strongly dislike your goverment and you love it, that's all.

That's normal political dissens to me :)


 Blitz*

You have every right to your opinion (in my country at least). I would like to hear your reasons for your strong dislike.



*If ya ever come to Berlin i owe you a beer [/B][/QUOTE] *

Offer accepted :D

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« Reply #172 on: March 12, 2003, 12:49:02 AM »
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Originally posted by Ping
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/documents/episode-9/04-01.htm But I think as adults here we should be able to point out that US government policy is not always Altruistic.
I would like to apologize if I have left the impression that I am Anti-American, as I really am not. Just cant stand the Administration.


Of course it isn't. It's primary purpose is to protect the interests of its people. And why can't you stand the administration?

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« Reply #173 on: March 12, 2003, 12:53:42 AM »
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;-)  Regards Blitz



Frane is threatened by Germany in no way, it's just plain ridiculous(circa 1938)

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« Reply #174 on: March 12, 2003, 12:58:58 AM »
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Sadly enough, you're right.

Which area would have been destroyed by using short range nuc missels and nuc attillery?

That has been the the worst war strategy ever for Europe !

And after all things  have been melted in center Europe, Russia and America would have been come to the conclusion that it's might be time to stop this now before their homelands get hurt.


Massive attack doctrin was a lot better than this Flexible response toejam ( only for Eupope, of couse).


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France is threatened by Germany in no way, it's just plain ridiculous (circa 1938)


I think the sacrifice made by the American people to ensure that this never happened has escaped you, or maybe the history classes in your country choose to ignore/rewrite history to give the youngsters a different point of view. I'm not sure why the true nature of things escapes you. Perhaps it's because it wasnt you and yours that had to make the sacrifice?

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« Reply #175 on: March 12, 2003, 01:02:00 AM »
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No Judge, It was a buffer between Western Europe and the USSR.
 
Or did you even bother reading it? Did you look up the links?
 
Funked: It was all about stopping any Communist expansion into western Europe. Germany was on the Border and it was there that the line was drawn. CIA papers reveal that Berlin was a treasure trove of info and the means of getting intel on Soviet plans.  Government papers
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/documents/episode-9/04-01.htm
show that Nukes would have been used to stop any large scale attack.
It is your own Governments information showing this. What more can I say? Germany was a Buffer zone in any military sense.


We should have set up shop on the west side of the channel.

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« Reply #176 on: March 12, 2003, 01:17:48 AM »
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btw why US lost 1/3 of oil reserves in past 3 months ???
did price of oil increased ?  


I think there was a strike made by workers in the country that we recieve most of our oil from. It just happens to be on a different continent from the one you are talking about. At the same time,US oil reserves are at an all time high. The commercial reserves are lower than they have been in years, but there is enough oil in the US to last for a long time with no more importation of oil. This "war for oil' toejam is starting to get on my nerves. If we wanted it, we would have taken it the first time.

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« Reply #177 on: March 12, 2003, 01:19:25 AM »
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Frane is threatened by Germany in no way, it's just plain ridiculous(circa 1938)


Did blitz actually say this?

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« Reply #178 on: March 12, 2003, 01:31:42 AM »
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Did blitz actually say this?

lol, no

was just making a point.

go to the first page of this thread to see what he said.