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Offline Saurdaukar

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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2003, 07:24:56 PM »
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But sold very , very poor.......


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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2003, 07:28:06 PM »
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Just like I said.....  You are trying to evade and roadkill your way out of it.
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2003, 08:49:59 PM »
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There is nothing in American experience or in American political life or in our culture that suggests we want to use hard power. But what we have found over the decades is that unless you do have hard power -- and here I think you're referring to military power -- then sometimes you are faced with situations that you can't deal with.

I mean, it was not soft power that freed Europe. It was hard power. And what followed immediately after hard power? Did the United States ask for dominion over a single nation in Europe? No. Soft power came in the Marshall Plan. Soft power came with American GIs who put their weapons down once the war was over and helped all those nations rebuild. We did the same thing in Japan.

So our record of living our values and letting our values be an inspiration to others I think is clear. And I don't think I have anything to be ashamed of or apologize for with respect to what America has done for the world.

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We have gone forth from our shores repeatedly over the last hundred years and we’ve done this as recently as the last year in Afghanistan and put wonderful young men and women at risk, many of whom have lost their lives, and we have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them in, and otherwise we have returned home to seek our own, you know, to seek our own lives in peace, to live our own lives in peace. But there comes a time when soft power or talking with evil will not work where, unfortunately, hard power is the only thing that works.

We have seen these sorts of evil leaders before. We have seen them throughout history. And they are still alive today. There are still leaders around who will say, "You do not have the will to prevail over my evil." And I think we are facing one of those times now.



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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2003, 09:06:28 PM »
would someone please point out to me the relevance of german or french postions on a impending U.S. led war against a mass-murdering dictator in the middle east?
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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2003, 09:15:05 PM »
Hangtime you forget how important anfd influential France knows it is in the world...  I think France has never gotten over waterloo and their utter insignificance and military failiures in the world since then.

Plus I think the real reason is that France is afraid they will be invaded by somedy while the US and Brit army is busy in Iraq and they wont be able save France this time around...  :D
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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2003, 06:25:41 AM »
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So, Beetle, what were you saying about that 'Special Relationship'...?
Dowding - Tony's beliefs are my beliefs - on one issue only - this war. Too bad there's so much "pinkoism" in the country these days. This whole shortsighted peacenik attitude might never have occurred under Thatcher in the 1980s. Clare Short can suck my... on second thoughts, I'd rather she didn't.

The pinkos have played right into Saddam's hands. It's pathetic.

Nice post up the top by Ripsnort. I guess I must be a redneck as I seem to accord with Rip on this whole issue. :D;)

I just wish this war would start and be done with before world relations get any more porked than they are now.
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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2003, 06:48:47 AM »
Geez, heard Blair only finds support in 19% of thr Brit  population.  Blair may not be around too much longer, but to him and the 19%.  Your support of the USA position is truely appreciated!
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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2003, 07:29:17 AM »
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2003, 09:21:21 AM »
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Geez, heard Blair only finds support in 19% of thr Brit  population.  Blair may not be around too much longer, but to him and the 19%.  Your support of the USA position is truely appreciated!


Thats without UN backing - about what it is in this country if I recall.

The number that approve action WITH UN backing is much higher - but they wont tell you that on Faux News.
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