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Offline BEVO

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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2003, 09:21:37 AM »
pit bull

Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2003, 09:24:07 AM »
Not a pit bull, an American Bull Terrier.... big difference.

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2003, 02:05:14 AM »
This is an American Pit Bull Terrier.

60% of the dog bites each year are reported as being caused by a 'Pit Bull'. One person in this post
even called this dog a 'Pit Bull'.
There is no breed of dog called a 'Pit Bull'.
Millions of these dogs die each year in animal shelters that aren't even put up for adoption
because of their breed. No matter how good-natured they are, no matter how well-trained.

There are laws floating around that try to ban the breed. But this is as bad as racism. I own 2 APBT's,
one 3 years and this one 2 months, and both make friend out of eveyone they meet.

16 people answered this post, and 15 were wrong about the breed. But my dogs could be banned for being
a 'Pit Bull'.

This crazy #@$! has to stop!:mad:

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2003, 03:24:45 AM »
I understand that owners makeup for a lot of the "evil dog" reports throughout the country, but there's another side.  I've had contact with American Bull Terrier's before.  The owner's treated them well, they were never used for fighting, etc. etc.  The dog was always really nice to me, although i was always apprehensive around it.  Always greeted me when I showed up, was friendly w/guests, all that.  I actually started to trust this dog.  

Then one day a neighbor's dog (irish setter) made the mistake of walking across the lower portion of the owner's property.  George, as the dog was known, made a beeline to where the irish setter was.  I heard a couple of barks and then a loud snap.  Everything got quiet.  Then George came running back to us as happy as could be like nothing had happened.  A short walk revealed an irish setter, dead from a snapped neck.  The whole thing took about 30 seconds.

Could any dog have done this?  Maybe.  But I believe that there's instincts with certain breeds of dogs that just don't disappear.  Given the right circumstances, they'll surface.  

Having said that, I don't think they should be outlawed at all.  If people are willing to raise them and keep them away from me, more power to them.  I've known people to have Bull Terriers and never have trouble, but I've seen the flip side too.  And that's enough for me to never expose my family to a Bull Terrier.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2003, 03:37:04 AM »
I used to dogsit a white Pit Bull Terrier.  Gorgeous beast, and absolutely loved every person he came across.  Any animal he saw, however, he tried to kill.

I think he was somewhat stupid, and thought every squirrel was actually the same squirrel teleporting around.

btw Cougar, your name is similar to a friend of mine from dslreports.com.  You ever frequent that site as Cougar99?

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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2003, 04:39:17 AM »
These dogs can be trained to be calm around other animals...up to a point.
You can't trust them completely with other dogs. Sooner or later there may be a fight. But my dogs get along fine with cats.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2003, 04:51:03 AM »
This breed will kill another breed. That is what it was bred for.

In the case of your friend, he failed to notice this trait. That was a part of the ignorance I mentioned.

There is nothing about this breed that is 'mean'. Your friends dog did just what he meant to do...fight. If it had been watched correctly, there wouldn't be a dead dog now.

These dogs were not bred to fight humans. That is my point.

The owners give these dogs a bad rap, not the dogs nature.

And being scared of a APBT will show though next time you meet up with one.

And the owner will notice.
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2003, 05:04:05 AM »
See what I mean about catching Hell from everyone???

But I've been there, done that.

The APBT is most likely the best dog to own if you have children. Just do a search of thier Temperment test scores if you don't believe me.:D

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2003, 05:24:17 AM »
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Originally posted by Duedel
Hi squelch,

its not the breed that makes a dog bad, its his owner.


Yeah, owners can make a bad dog. But in the case of the pitbull, I disagree. They were bred to kill.

Let me explain it to you this way. You take a tiger cub from birth from a tiger in captivity. You treat it like a household pet, and bring it up well. Would you trust this animal as a household pet? You wouldn't because you know that instinctively, that tiger is a killer and could eat your kids. Animals are instinctive, they are animals, that is how they are. Some dogs attack, but when a pitbull attacks he kills, it's in his blood.

Now a pitbull can be fine, but anything can kick in this instinct. Kids walking home from school who get in a fight, dog snaps. Domestic quarrel, dog snaps. It can be a number of things.

It's not the dog's fault, it's in his blood. It's instinct. And I don't care how good of a trainer you are, you can't change that.

Those of you who think "it's not the poor dog, it's the owner, if it had a loving owner it would be different"  well, you're living in a nickelodeon fantasy world.

The pitbull terrier can be fine one day, snap the next. It was bred a killer, and that's what it is.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2003, 09:03:37 AM »
I love dogs, have had many as pets over the years. However, owners should be held more accountable for the actions of their pets. An attack on a person by a dog should be treated as if the attack were made by it's owner.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2003, 09:32:57 AM »
Sixpense is right.

I have seen the most lovable pits turn nasty at the slightest provocation...normally this isn't directed at humans, if the owners have treated the animals well, but when it comes to other dogs pits want to fight.  It is in their nature as they have been bred for this purpose.  Argue all you want about that, but it is a fact.  

A friend of mine bred these dogs for a living and for the longest time I was a staunch supporter of them.  Then, Emily (his main breeding squeak, and a lovable beautiful animal) for no apparent reason turned on my friend's daughter.  The dog ended up eating a piece of mucsle that she tore from the little girl's arm.  This changed my mind about pits..and my friend's.  He sold off all of his dogs and no longer breeds them.

I'm not suggesting we should round up all animals of this breed and kill them, in any way.  I personally think they should no longer be bred.
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2003, 09:35:27 AM »
That dog.. I've seen it on a billboard!!!


I'm pretty sure it said:   "Eat More Chicken" or something

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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2003, 01:45:29 PM »
Any other dog can snap, just like a Bull Terrier. And depending on the size of the dog, it can do just as much damge to a human as a APBT.

People are scared of this breed, and not many people like a dog that they HAVE to show respect to or they end up with something they can't control.

There isn't anything in this dogs nature that isn't in any other dogs nature, except it likes to fight.

Show the dog respect, train it, keep it fed, ect...you have a well-natured dog that won't attack for no reason. Just like with any other breed.

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2003, 01:47:18 PM »
lmao!!! Thanks for the laugh!

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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2003, 01:53:24 PM »
I hate dogs.