F4U-1C weight?

[Red Tail 444]

Thanks,

I'm going to assume you did your homework, and the stats youre testing in AH are based on identical ammo and fuel loads?

I usually up clean, with 100% Fuel and two externals. Initial combat weight for me is clean with 100% Fuel, depending on situation.

I'll pay more attention to my CR and report to the posting...well, once I can afford one, that is

[Furball]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
I think I am nearly 9:1 in the -4, but only 2.5:1 in the -1, but the -4 really gives me the option to run like hell, and I always have to LOL

I love the C, probably my favourite plane - this tour i have 46:0 in it, last tour 137:3 (2 were crashes ) . Mostly all A2A.  Thing with the Chog is you need the right sort of fight to be successful in it, i spiral climb over CV to about 8-10k minimum, then BnZ to my hearts content the low furballers!

[Sancho]

Originally posted by F4UDOA
Unfortunately the F4U-1D and C have the distinction of being the only A/C in AH with drag from external stores Pylons with or without carrying ordinance..

what about those big fat pylons under my bubbletop jug wings?

[J_A_B]

"I have never seen anything that says a P-51D was any faster than it is here in AH except when adding higher octane fuel. "

This is because all the "official" U.S. tests were done with the bomb/DT pylons attached, and they were only very rarely removed since the kind of missions the 51B and D generally flew required them.  

The P-38 also appears to have the drag from the rocket racks; this is why we have a 414 MPH P-38L instead of a 420+ one.

I'd assume the P-47D-25 and D-30 also have the drag from their wing pylons modeled, since like the P-51 these pylons were present in all the "official" flight tests.  

I think this is why the F4U-1D has its stub rocket racks included in its flight model--in the sort of flight tests that HTC seems to use as their basis for flightmodels, these racks were almost always present on the F4U-1D (and to be honest they weren't removed all that much in the field, either).  I too would like to see a better-performing -1D, as I feel the plane doesn't quite see its fair share of use in AH.  

J_A_B

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Furball
I love the C, probably my favourite plane - this tour i have 46:0 in it, last tour 137:3 (2 were crashes ) . Mostly all A2A.  Thing with the Chog is you need the right sort of fight to be successful in it, i spiral climb over CV to about 8-10k minimum, then BnZ to my hearts content the low furballers!

Very much the way I fly them. I always climb out above the CV, cause a low and slow Corsair is an easy target.

Likewise, I ran up a similar score with F4Us, losing 3 to collisions, (all my fault, flying into wreckage) and one each to a PT and B-26.

Unlike many fighters, the C-hog deals with co-E and co-alt enemies by simply breaking into them. They have the option of bearing off or taking the HO, which they almost always regret. Even if they do bear off, a big bootful of rudder may still allow you to hose 'em as they go by.

Nonetheless, the F4U requires care to avoid getting caught without E, where it does not perform very well. However, the F4U-4 is a different animal, it has the power to make it one of the most dangerous fighters in the game. P-51s, Doras and Tiffies are in real danger when faced with the -4.

I think I'll spend some time in the Mossie for tour 39, just for a change of pace.

My regards,

Widewing

[F4UDOA]

Sancho,

The Pylons are similar to the ones on the D hog. But the drag isn't modeled as far as I can tell.

JAB,

I have never seen the source docs for the P-51D. In fact I have never seen a real source doc of a P-51D, P47 or P-38 (not including flight manuals).

If anyone has one I would luv to see them.

[Furball]

Originally posted by Widewing
Unlike many fighters, the C-hog deals with co-E and co-alt enemies by simply breaking into them. They have the option of bearing off or taking the HO, which they almost always regret. Even if they do bear off, a big bootful of rudder may still allow you to hose 'em as they go by.

Yup widewing, in a HO situation i usually give a long burst when the enemy is 1.4 away, then break off, i use same tactic against PT boats to good effect.  Usually though i try to avoid HO's, i like using the roll rate on the f4u to scissor with enemies, it is a very manouverable plane when its fast.

If i find a co-alt aircraft is on my 6, i usually point to mother earth, build the speed up, then cut the throttle and do a tight climbing turn, roll over the top.  Nearly always the opponent follows and compresses, so as you roll out of the top you are on their 6

[humble]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
I fly the -1 and -4, when not in a Jabo role, and I enjoy the corsairs. The concern I have is the huge discrepancy in climb rate in the non-4's. It just seems to me I can't spiral climb away from a number of rides in here. It might be me, not the plane, so...who knows?

GAINSIE

I'm certainly not a great hog driver but I fly the -1 hog afair amount. It's obviously anice zoomer...but I'd never try and spiral climb on anything. Doesn't seem like a good use of the planes strengths at all. Biggest asset the-1 hog has is it's unexpected handling (especially with 1/3 of a tank or less left) combined with great roll rate and dive to zoom...

[Red Tail 444]

Well that's exactly my point, Humble...the power of the corsair seems a little off, to me, based on what I heard and read.

And yes, the corsair is light on its feet wien light on fuel. Add to that appropriate MAP settings, and you can cruise around forever.

Gainsie

[F4UDOA]

RedTail,

I have annecdotal evidence out the Wazoo that says the same. In fact much of it is more than annecdotal. But how do you get that in AH?

BTW. Much of the problem with the F4U in AH IMHO is related to the stall speeds not being accurately reflected here. I have an open dialog with HT on this so we are at a "Sitzkreig" on the subject.