Author Topic: What to do about Captured CVs that have no Port? (Read 176 times)

aknimitz · « **on:** January 10, 2002, 04:42:00 PM »

I dont know if something is going to be done about this, hell I dont even know if there is anything that can be done about it. I know this has been discussed previously in various threads, but thought I would rekindle the idea here.

When a country captures an enemy CV and port, but subsequently loses the port, that country invariably hides the CV in the most remote part of the map and leaves it there. I understand why its done, I just dont like it

Anyone have ideas for how this might could be resolved? Or is it best just left how it is now? We now have red arrows that indicate the location of off the map planes, what if we had a yellow arrow pointing to the location of the CV once it gets outside 75 or 100 miles from its home port?

Any other ideas?

Nim

Kieran · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2002, 04:46:00 PM »

Juuuust sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
The tale of a fateful trip,
That started in this tropic PORT
Aboard this tiny ship...

Hell hath no fury like that of Gilligan in command.

Wotan · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2002, 06:59:00 PM »

cvs are really pointless they die easy but they can disrupt and distract a country when 1 gets in the "back country" unseen. I see no big deal with taking them out of harms way.

Off map stuff is kinda gay tho.

Besides with all the side switchin spy types and 5th columnist the cv doesn't stay hidden for long. I feel just about the same way in regards to cvs as I do buffs.

They are less relevant then they were when released and its a good thing.

SBs keep folks from parkin them right off a base to use them as ack platforms. The 5 inch no lnger snipe you off at 25k and theres an abundance of suicide dweebs ready to fly their jug right through them.

Dont see the problem its not like we have large maps that are inexcessable from other land based fields.

aknimitz · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2002, 08:21:00 PM »

Heya Wotan,

Well, we dont have huge maps, but look at the current map. The Rooks have the west side of Mindanao. Our (Bishop) was hidden in the NW corner under the Compass. IMHO, thats a little ridiculous.

Nim

Wotan · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2002, 10:07:00 PM »

I agree mate cvs are rediculous

but i understand others fly cv based planes but my bias prevents me from taking that into account

Hiding a cv is no more gamey or has no more an impact then suicidal cv killers they seem to balance out somewhat.

But do you think that cvs ought to automatically become owned by the country owning the port where its attached?

Ports are ez to capture for the most part but so is suiciding the cv.

The way I see it and again I'm very biased is that a cv is not good for anything except defending its home port.

Every time they get to far away from their port the port is captured once that happens it then turns into should I let them have the cv back (because thats really what it is....theres no way to protect it from suicidal dweebs except to take it out of range until the port is captured).

I dont care either way but I'm just pointing out thats its typical main type behavior no better or worse then a lot of other stuff.

I guess the trick would be to keep some level of intel as where the nme cvs are and as soon as the port falls or as soon as it obvious the port wil fall would to be to find and sink the cv.

and if ya think about it that would be a little more "realistic" then parking a cv 2 miles off shore as an ack platform.......

Also this could open the door to a new use for buffs.........cv hunters and recon.....

[ 01-10-2002: Message edited by: Wotan ]

Voss · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2002, 01:14:00 AM »

We ran into a 'sort' of agreement the last time this came up. It was decided that a group used in action was not 'hiding.' So, why not just ask HT to write some code relevant to waypoints and enemy fields with regards to captured groups? If, that is too hard to accomplish (I can see tests being questionable), then we're just left with it as it is.

Intersting that the shoe is on the other foot now, Nim.

aknimitz · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2002, 01:25:00 AM »

Um, not sure what you are talking about Voss. I have always been against hiding CVs. In fact, I immediately disclose their location to the enemy if my country is doing so. Whattya mean shoe on the other foot?

BTW, Where ya been??

Nim

BlauK · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2002, 02:51:00 AM »

IMO CVs are so big that every (frindly and enemy) CV location should be visible on the map all the time just like the enemy fields are visible on it. Let's just consider it as effective recon info.

This would prevent the CV sneak attacks though, but how often are CVs used in such fashion anyway. Most often I have seen them as ack umbrellas and in straight frontal assaults.

BlauK · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2002, 02:52:00 AM »

Another softer approach would be to show the enemy CV only if your country owns the CV's home port.