Aircraft Identity? German?

[Jigster]

Hmmm. I can make out Curtis Electric on the prop.

- Jig

[Tuomio]

p-38 is really out of discussion here! Look yourself.
 

[Minotaur]

 

Originally posted by juzz:
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Minotaur, that's a P-38J - at least, it has the redesigned engine intakes. The older style were angled back and more streamlined with the engine cowling, thusly:
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Hmm...

Juzz;

You better look again, because the picture of the P-38 I put up is not a P-38J.

Hint  --> Champagne Anyone?

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[Wardog]

LOL, it was a German p38  

   


Ya never know  

this makes me cry...

   


This will make Frency cry..

   

And look what they did to my beautyfull Typhoon..

   


Axis flew many allied Captured AC.. And that butt ugly Yellow tail on the p38, Typhoon and p51 ive also see on the Captured Spitfire IX..

Prolly so there own didnt shoot them down..

Dog out..




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[Jigster]

 

Originally posted by Minotaur:
Hmm...

Juzz;

You better look again, because the picture of the P-38 I put up is not a P-38J.

Hint  --> Champagne Anyone?

I think Juzz meant the conversion model to the M. The J did have the same air intakes, and aside from the changes in the nose and cockpit, were very simular (as all are after the intake conversion)

Did make a nice VIP transport  

- Jig

[Animal]

look what they did to my beautiful p38  

[Hangtime]

If I recall correctly; Galland put together a 'Flying Circus' of captured allied A/C..

These planes toured about various western front bases; giving many germans pilots at those bases an opportunity to fly the adversarys A/C.. I don't think these were used for 'combat'.. just familiarization in enemy A/C capabilities.

Hang

[milnko]

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
Over on a website that is promoting a new book about WWII in the North Africa campaign, in the authors personal photo gallery (very nice, make sure to check it out) he has a photo he identifies as a downed German aircraft.
Caption: "Kiwi soldiers inspect a downed enemy aircraft outside Mersa Matruh"

Looks like the consensus is That Ain't No German Plane!![/i]
Although the clincher would be to know the year the photo was taken.

As much as I like the P-40's looks, and being a "Kraut-Can" driver myself I feel slighted that he would miss-identify the A/C as an axis plane.

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[juzz]

Minotaur, you started by saying:
 

This is a picture of a P-38G, which I believe had the same nacelle and intakes of the P-38F.

Well, in any case that plane is clearly not a G, nor does it have the same intakes as the F.

Then:
 

Hint --> Champagne Anyone?

If you were refering to this plane:
 

P-38L-5-LO Ser No 44-25605 was rebuilt by Hindustan Aircraft in India as a special VIP aircraft for a General Stratemeyer. The plane had a transparent nose, which made it look a lot like the "Droop Snoot" pathfinder Lightnings used in the European theatre. The General sat in a special seat inside the nose, and the inside walls of his "office" were lined with leather. There were even provisions for a built-in Thermos jug (I won't even ask what was IN the jug :-)). Sort of reminds me of General Dreedle in the movie *Catch 22*. Nowadays, if *Sixty Minutes* were to get wind of such an extravagance on the part of the military, heads would roll.

Then why did you intentionally mis-label it as a G, and why does the USAF site call it a droop snoot?

Jigster, I think maybe you're confused here?
 

I think Juzz meant the conversion model to the M. The J did have the same air intakes, and aside from the changes in the nose and cockpit, were very simular (as all are after the intake conversion)

Did make a nice VIP transport

 

That's a P-38M, and I don't think the GIB looks very comfortable.  

Either way, the plane in the picture is a P-40!  

[Jigster]

They were carrying passangers in the P-38 long before the haunch back seat of the M or the L and droopsnoot.

Remember, it was not all to uncommon to make pick-up runs in France after the invasion, to bring people who needed immediate return (and the pilots were often repayed with French wine   )

Anderson and Yeager were said to do that on a number of occasions, landing a P-51, having a passenger ride in their lap all the way back to England.

So ya, I'd say the M was more comfortable then squatting on the radio equipment  

- Jig

[Minotaur]

Ouch....  How did this road get so rocky?

Juzz;  

Lets face it I was wrong.  I thought P-38G, F5A and Droopsnout were the same.  I was more interested in the nacelle intake structures to discount my claim that Verm's picture was a P-38.  My bad, but it still don't look like a P-38J.

Remember this?

 

By Minotaur

Juzz, you fell for the oldest trick in the book...  

Check Three! Check Three!    (Image removed from quote.)

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