Slaughter at the Bridge of Death

[blitz]

Originally posted by Steve
I'm still waiting for your solution Blitz.  Or are you just some dull witted whacko that really doesn't have an original idea/opinion and you're just regurgitating others propaganda to appear intellectual?

Exactly!   Bist Du wirklich so ein verbohrter Dummkopf?




March 21, 2003
>
>The following is a copy of Mary (Ann) Wright's letter of resignation to
>Secretary of State Colin Powell. Wright was most recently the deputy
>chief of mission at the U.S. embassy in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. She helped
>open
>the U.S. embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, in January 2002.
>
>U.S. Embassy, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
>March 19, 2003
>Secretary of State Colin Powell
>US Department of State
>Washington, DC 20521
>
>Dear Secretary Powell:
>
>When I last saw you in Kabul in January, 2002 you arrived to officially
>open the US Embassy that I had helped reestablish in December, 2001 as the
>first political officer. At that time I could not have imagined that I
would
>be writing a year later to resign from the Foreign Service because of US
>policies. All my adult life I have been in service to the United
>States.. I have been a diplomat for fifteen years and the Deputy
>Chief of Mission in our Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia, Afghanistan
>(briefly) and
>Mongolia.
>
>I have also had assignments in Somalia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Grenada
>and Nicaragua. I received the State Department's Award for Heroism as
Charge
>d'Affaires during the evacuation of Sierra Leone in 1997. I was 26 years
>in the US Army/Army Reserves and participated in civil reconstruction
>projects after military operations in Grenada, Panama and Somalia. I
>attained the rank of Colonel during my military service.
>
>This is the only time in my many years serving America that I have felt
>I cannot represent the policies of an Administration of the United
>States. I disagree with the Administration's policies on Iraq, the
>Israeli-Palestinian conflict, North Korea and curtailment of civil
>liberties in the U.S. itself. I believe the Administration's policies are
>making the world a more dangerous, not a safer, place. I feel obligated
>morally and
>professionally to set out my very deep and firm concerns on these
>policies and to resign from government service as I cannot defend or
>implement them.
>
>I hope you will bear with my explanation of why I must resign. After
>thirty years of service to my country, my decision to resign is a huge step
>and
>I want to be clear in my reasons why I must do so.
>
>I disagree with the Administration's policies on Iraq.
>
>I wrote this letter five weeks ago and held it hoping that the
>Administration would not go to war against Iraq at this time without
>United Nations Security Council agreement. I strongly believe that going to
>war
>now will make the world more dangerous, not safer.
>
>There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein is a despicable dictator and has
>done incredible damage to the Iraqi people and others of the region. I
>totally support the international community's demand that Saddam's regime
>destroy weapons of mass destruction.
>
>However, I believe we should not use US military force without UNSC
>agreement to ensure compliance. In our press for military action now, we
>have
>created deep chasms in the international community and in important
>international organizations. Our policies have alienated many of our allies
>and
>created ill will in much of the world.
>
>Countries of the world supported America's action in Afghanistan as a
>response to the September 11 Al Qaida attacks on America. Since then,
>America has lost the incredible sympathy of most of the world because of
our
>policy toward Iraq. Much of the world considers our statements about Iraq
as
>arrogant, untruthful and masking a hidden agenda. Leaders of moderate
>Moslem/Arab countries warn us about predicable outrage and anger of the
>youth of their countries if America enters an Arab country with the
>purpose of attacking Moslems/Arabs, not defending them. Attacking the
>Saddam regime in Iraq now is very different than expelling the same regime
>from
>Kuwait, as we did ten years ago.
>
>I strongly believe the probable response of many Arabs of the region and
>Moslems of the world if the US enters Iraq without UNSC agreement will
>result in actions extraordinarily dangerous to America and Americans.
>Military
>action now without UNSC agreement is much more dangerous for America and
>the world than allowing the UN weapons inspections to proceed and
>subsequently taking UNSC authorized action if warranted.
>
>I firmly believe the probability of Saddam using weapons of mass
>destruction is low, as he knows that using those weapons will trigger
>an immediate, strong and justified international response. There will be no
>question
>of action against Saddam in that case. I strongly disagree with the use of
>a "preemptive attack" against Iraq and believe that this preemptive attack
>policy
>will be used against us and provide justification for individuals and
groups
>to "preemptively attack" America and American citizens.
>
>The international military build-up is providing pressure on the regime
>that is resulting in a slow, but steady disclosure of Weapons of Mass
>Destruction (WMD). We should give the weapons inspectors time to do
>their job. We should not give extremist Moslems/ Arabs a further cause to
>hate
>America, or give moderate Moslems a reason to join the extremists.
>Additionally, we must
>reevaluate keeping our military forces in the Middle East, particularly
>in Saudi Arabia. Their presence on the Islamic "holy soil" of Saudi Arabia
>will be an anti-American rally cry for Moslems as long as the US military
>remains and a strong reason, in their opinion, for actions against the US
>government and American citizens.
>
>Although I strongly believe the time in not yet right for military
>action in Iraq, as a soldier who has been in several military
>operations, I hope General Franks, US and coalition forces can accomplish
>the
>missions they will be ordered do without loss of civilian or military life
>and without
>destruction of the Iraqi peoples' homes and livelihood. I strongly urge
>the Department of State to attempt again to stop the policy that is leading
>us to military action in Iraq without UNSC agreement. Timing is everything
>and
>this is not yet the time for military action.
>
>I disagree with the Administration's lack of effort in resolving the
>Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Likewise, I cannot support the lack of
>effort by the Administration to use its influence to resurrect the
>Israeli-Palestinian peace process. As Palestinian suicide bombers kill
>Israelis
>and Israeli military operations kill Palestinians and destroy Palestinian
>towns
>and cities, the Administration has done little to end the violence. We must
>exert our
>considerable financial influence on the Israelis to stop destroying
>cities and on the Palestinians to curb its youth suicide bombers. I hope
the
>Administration's long-needed "Roadmap for Peace" will have the human
>resources and political capital needed to finally make some progress
>toward peace.
>
>I disagree with the Administration's lack of policy on North Korea
>
>Additionally, I cannot support the Administration's position on North
>Korea. With weapons, bombs and missiles, the risks that North Korea poses
>are
>too great to ignore. I strongly believe the Administration's lack of
>substantive discussion, dialogue and engagement over the last two years has
>jeopardized security on the peninsula and the region. The situation
>with North Korea is dangerous for us to continue to neglect.
>
>I disagree with the Administration's policies on Unnecessary Curtailment
>of Rights in America. Further, I cannot support the Administration's
>unnecessary curtailment of civil rights following September 11. The
>investigation
>of those suspected of ties with terrorist organizations is critical but the
>legal system of America for 200 years has been based on standards that
>provide
>protections for persons during the investigation period. Solitary
>confinement without
>access to legal counsel cuts the heart out of the legal foundation on
>which our country stands. Additionally, I believe the Administration's
>secrecy in the
>judicial process has created an atmosphere of fear to speak out against the
>gutting of the protections on which America was built and the protections
we
>encourage other countries
>to provide to their citizens.
>
>Resignatio
>
>I have served my country for almost thirty years in the some of the most
>isolated and dangerous parts of the world. I want to continue to serve
>America. However, I do not believe in the policies of this
>Administration and cannot defend or implement them. It is with heavy
>heart that I must end my service to America and therefore resign due to the
>Administration's policies.
>
>Mr. Secretary, to end on a personal note, under your leadership, we have
>made great progress in improving the organization and administration of the
>Foreign Service and the Department of State. I want to thank you for
>your extraordinary efforts to that end. I hate to leave the Foreign
Service,
>and I wish you and our colleagues well.
>
>Very Respectfully,
>
>Mary A. Wright, FO-01
>



Regards Blitz





America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous.

When will Vietnam people finally get an apology?

2 million killed, 3 million wounded, what for?

[blitz]

Originally posted by tracerx
Ok Blitz, turn off Al Jazeera, and step away from the TV.  You are unnecessarily subjecting yourself to irrational and illogical sources of information.  Please don't confuse cause and effect.  The fact that Saddam Hussein refuses to feed his people and divert resources from the oil for food program for military purposes is not the fault of the United States Government.  He has ways to provide for his people, but refuses to do so.  Your demonizing of the USA for the condition of the civilian population in Iraq is like blaming Smith & Wesson for killing John Lennon.  The only one with a gun here is Saddam Hussein.  It is hard to talk to people who fail to look at the whole picture.

As you ask me to, Mr. Fox Propaganda


Regards Blitz




America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous.

When will Vietnam people finally get an apology?

2 million killed, 3 million wounded, what for?

[blitz]

Originally posted by BGBMAW
LMFAO


Blutz you are a moron..Why arent you with the other human shields...*****

No need to get some bloody liberating Clusterbomb on my head, lost to many hairs already by the nonsense, spit by Bush & Co


Regards Blitz

[blitz]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Interesting, this thread kind of reminds me of a quote I read about a particular battle during the Tet offensive.

Maybe we have to "destroy the town in order to save it."

Are we doing the same in Iraq?

Saddam did all that gassing in 1988, with our Government and the UK providing support. Where was the outcry then? Rumsfeld and Bush shook that bastard's hand, no less!

Definitely, Saddam needs to go, but the trash talking about Shock and Awe, and how fast we're going to have the Iraqis blowing kisses to us, does anyone remember that? Damn, even I got caught up in the hype. At least I can admit it. We're in this tar baby now, and we're stuck there, I just look forward to the regime falling. What happens next? Cheaper Oil? more pissed off Muslims? Cats and dogs living together, side by side?

I hope we're this hawkish against North Korea, that actually has the ability and balls to defend itself.

Not to mention China, anyone hear the wonderful stories about how they're squashing democracy there, away from the media? Saddam is nothing compared to those clowns.

In any event, it totally sucks that we can somehow find billions and billions of dollars, and yet no money for me, schools, me, policemen, me, firemen , me, retired vets, (but most importantly, ME) and  the guys in this online GAME that have been unemployed for months...Go figure.

It's not about republicans or democrats...but theres plenty of BS we've been force fed by this administration..more to come later, count on it. Those Iraqi warships are gonna steam right up to the Naval War College and invade Newport..I saw it on MSNBC.com

I liked most of the responses here, on both sides...this is something most Iraquis can't do, hopefully this will change

Support the damn troops, at the VERY least!

Gainsie

There's absolutely no way i would support your troops at the moment and if Germany would have troops there i would not support them too other than fightin for bringin them home .

In fact i wish Germany would close our airspace for all millitary planes running to the middle-east now.

But at least Germany supports your wounded soldiers in hospitals on our territory, so they don't have to drive all that long way back, at once. I support that.


I respect all those of You, though, who think, it's a must to  support your soldiers when ya at war.


Regards Blitz





America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous- It's an 'Angriffskrieg'

[ccvi]

Originally posted by Saintaw
There already is a Euro-Disney park, it's located in Paris.

I'm surprised you didn't know that BIGBlololxxx.

AFAIK it's less than not profitable. Noone wants to see culture-less kind of entertainment

[ccvi]

Originally posted by Steve
Heck, shouldn't our troops that see combat be appropriately compensated for their willingness to give their lives for the good of the country?

What good are they doing for your country? Thought the war was fought for the 100k ppl/year killed in iraq?

[Steve]

ccvi, wtf is that supposed to mean?  We are removing an Iraqi regime that has now known ties to terrorists who have proven they are willing to kill thousands of Americans.  As it happens, this regime was also killing over 100k/year of it's own people.
My mention of Iraqi deaths was related to Blitz's argument that the deaths were caused by sanctions, not by the actions of the regime.  Try to keep up.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Steve
ccvi, wtf is that supposed to mean?  We are removing an Iraqi regime that has now known ties to terrorists who have proven they are willing to kill thousands of Americans.  As it happens, this regime was also killing over 100k/year of it's own people.
My mention of Iraqi deaths was related to Blitz's argument that the deaths were caused by sanctions, not by the actions of the regime.  Try to keep up.

Hey steve, please  e-mail Mr. Bush to attack his hijacker friends in Riad (where is Riad on my map?) , to stop some terrorists


Regards Blitz


btw Tell me why some of them were from liberated , democratic Kuwait?

Where Osama got his money from ( other than all that millions of that money gone from US government to Taliban regime for that pipeline?)?




America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous- It's a classic bloody 'Aggression War'


When will this tough little country of Vietnam see that apology?

Americans and Vietnamese at least have something in common :

Their pride

[Steve]

Blitz, you've gone for speaking gibberish, to speaking German, back to speaking gibberish. Don't get me wrong, I'm always impressed when one knows more than one language... just that you often make no sense in English.

[blitz]

Originally posted by blitz
Hey steve, e-mail Mr. Bush to attack his hijacker friends in Riad (where is Riad on my map?) , to stop some terrorists


Regards Blitz


btw Tell me why some of them were from liberated , democratic Kuwait?

Where Osama got his money from ( other than all that millions of that money gone from US government to Taliban regime for that pipeline?)?




America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous- It's a classic bloody 'Aggression War'


When will this tough little country of Vietnam see that apology?

Americans and Vietnamese at least have something in common :

Their pride

Read some newspapers and books Steve, then you'll find out some day



Regards Blitz

[bounder]

Originally posted by Martlet
As Bush said today.  We aren't going to let terrorists, nations that support terrorists, or nation's with the predisposition to arm terrorists exist.
 

UK Shoulda bombed Boston and NY while it had the chance...

[Martlet]

Originally posted by bounder
UK Shoulda bombed Boston and NY while it had the chance...

When did you ever have the chance?

[bounder]

Up until the time groups in the US stopped providing financial support for terrorists killing people in the UK...

Bombing cities after organisations harboured within have stopped funding terrorism is beyond the pale, even for the UK.

I think the funding really tailed off araound 11.09.01 but had already been declining ever since the British Government sat down to negotiate a peace settlement with the terrorists.

[Martlet]

I ask again, when did the UK ever have the chance to bomb Boston?

[Dowding]

When did you ever have the chance?

What has that got to do with anything?

Are you a supporter of the IRA, Martlet?

Now there's a question out of left-field to go with yours.