Author Topic: Jessica Lynch, 507th Maint Bn, RESCUED! (Read 3619 times)

anonymous · « **Reply #120 on:** May 30, 2003, 09:32:16 PM »

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anonymous: That was one of the reasons why I got the book. I read it was his thesis during grad school. His sources are unit histories, periodicals, books obtained from the Naval Historical Center.

his sources also consist of great interviews and he had access to info most writers wouldnt have thanks to him being a SEAL. the guy has been involved in alot of high speed ops all over the globe. a really nice guy in person as well.

Airhead · « **Reply #121 on:** May 30, 2003, 09:49:53 PM »

Thanks for the Song Tay link, but nonetheless it says no POWs were recovered. (In fact you might call the Song Tay "clusterf**k, except we didn't lose any people.)

Whatever, like Mauser says it's no big deal, so carry on your stories of daring military rescues.

anonymous · « **Reply #122 on:** May 30, 2003, 10:03:39 PM »

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Thanks for the Song Tay link, but nonetheless it says no POWs were recovered. (In fact you might call the Song Tay "clusterf**k, except we didn't lose any people.)

Whatever, like Mauser says it's no big deal, so carry on your stories of daring military rescues.

dunno dude a cluster**** to me means poor planning and poor execution. on son tay the only hitch was that the pows were moved shortly before the raid. the raid went off just as planned the enemy were wiped out without loss to the rescuing force and the raid did accomplish something. it caused the enemy to move all the pows to hanoi. this was good because before they were in many smaller camps and alot of guys disappeared from those camps never to be seen again. when all our guys were in hanoi together it was guranteed that if someone was captured theyd turn up in hanoi sooner than later. dont know what you mean by "stories of daring military rescues". like i said when i was being taught how to conduct that type of op years ago some of my teachers were guys who had run that type of op in VN. they used the what went wrong and what worked good from real life ops to teach the new guys. they still do. you say daring but in all honesty what alot of them ammounted to was the guys getting reliable intel that pows were being held at village x and the enemy strength at village y wasnt really overwhelming. so village y gets raided once the sun goes down. by the way the son tay link was so you could see that such missions were indeed planned.

Airhead · « **Reply #123 on:** May 31, 2003, 11:38:33 AM »

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...by the way the son tay link was so you could see that such missions were indeed planned.

K, I'd not heard if Son Tay before, or if I had it's a distant memory. Thanks for the education.

At least it went better than the Iran hostage rescue attempt.

anonymous · « **Reply #124 on:** May 31, 2003, 02:39:54 PM »

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At least it went better than the Iran hostage rescue attempt.

that was a heartbreaker. the planning was sound if the delta boys had managed to insert i think they could have rescued the hostages and gotten out. there were many armed militia in tehran but they were mostly block specific groups with no coordination or communication between themselves. the extract from the soccer stadium was a great idea as well. i think they would have been gone before a counterassault with enough forces could have been organized and executed. and that origional group of delta guys was very capable and experienced. but there was a small benefit to that disaster even. it led to creation of jsoc and joint service training even when working up for normal deployment. for example tf160 works with SEAL platoons all the time during deployment workups now. was a costly lesson tho alot of great guys killed before they got a chance to show their stuff.