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Offline Dowding

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2003, 09:14:22 AM »
You could say that about many people, Maverick.

I see uniformity of opinion as leading to a very boring forum.

He questioned the motives of the 'embedding' concept. Big deal. Notice he didn't doubt the veracity of what the reporter described.
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2003, 09:25:36 AM »
Yes he did dowding, thats the clear implication of what blur is saying now and has been saying for a long time about the war and america in general. He is a tool and a degenerate with no ideas or visions of his own, he simply spews hate an anything the USA actually does. Notice he never offers even the slightest, most speculative sugestion or alternative to anything, he only squats in the dark waiting for any opportuinity to spring forth and spew his drivel at any american course of action.  You might have point about uniformity of opinions on the BBS if by any chance he actually had or presnted an opinion, but  he does not and so you do not.

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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2003, 09:35:03 AM »
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This is exactly why the embedded reporter idea is so clever. After several weeks an affinity develops between the reporter and the troops. From then on no external coercion or censorship is required because the reporter will naturally spew out “hearts and mind” wining propaganda.



I know Smithers... We'll just place the reporters right with the troops. (rubs hands together) Then they'll develop this... this.. affinity..YES! This may be my most brilliant plan Smithers!

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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2003, 09:37:37 AM »
wonder what blur thinks about the iraq govt kicking al jezzera out of bagdad ( the iraq govt would have kicked them out of iraq but iraq govt no longer has control over any thing but bagdad)

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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2003, 09:38:00 AM »
Take a look around Grunherz. How many threads start with some quote from a paper or some transcript of a speech, followed, in effect, with the words "What he said." If you're going to start banning people for 'not forming their own opinion', you're going to have a dead forum in short order. Jesus, Ripsnort would be screwed! ;) (j/k)

So, providing Blur abides by the rules, he can be as cynical as he likes. We all have the ignore function if it really bothers you.
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2003, 09:48:43 AM »
Dowding the problem is he seemingly never offeres any sort of opinion, his own or others. He just jumps in shouting his general disguist with anything america does like some filthy drunken vagrant harrasing passers by on the street.

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2003, 09:51:32 AM »
By doing that he is expressing an opinion. I'm sorry if you find the content disagreeable, but that is completely irrelevant to your point. You are wrong, in this case.
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2003, 09:54:41 AM »
Let him post.

Ideas that deserve ridicule should always see the light of day.

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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2003, 09:55:21 AM »
There is no opinion in anything he says, its more of an automatic response stemming out of his many mental disorders. :)

MT Im all for letting him post... We need the comedy now that weazel has departed and boroda is off in iraq shooting down F18s.  :D
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2003, 10:08:41 AM »
These young men, and women (certainly one fine young PFC) are our finest.

As for the media, it's a double-edged sword. Sure, the Pentagon saw some solid opportunities with the process. However, the nature of the war so far has not allowed for too many "celebration in Paris" moments or piles of unused gas shells.

The journalists were more than happy to report the impressions of the combat leaders around them that the resistance was tougher than expected and the war is "different" than expected; that perhaps we could have used more forces on the ground; that warning shots might not have been fired in the checkpoint incident; that not all Iraqis are welcoming coalition forces as liberators, etc. Obviously, blur just takes from the coverage that which reinforces his preconceived positions, choosing to see what is a half full/half-empty glass as completely empty. Just another chirping bird, of which many can be found on both sides of the war debate.

In fact, should we take heavy casualties in the fight for Baghdad (and hopefully we won't), you can expect the embedding process to highlight the true cost of war to many American's who have never served in the military, or who do not have immediate family and friends serving in the military. In this case embedding would not likely be seen as a positive choice.

As a side note, one good thing in general is that pampered Ivy League broadcast journalists (and some similar print journalists)are learning what the military is all about. Hopefully this will translate into better coverage down the road with fewer ingrained stereotypes underlying the tone of the reporting.

Charon
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