B-1 video

[Octavius]

who's whining?  i see nothing of the sort

[Sox62]

Another video that was made shortly after 9/11 to the same music.Many here have already seen it,but for those who haven't here it is.

Taliban Bodies

[chance-airwolf]

Thanks for posting!

(Brings back newbie engineering memories during the manufacture of B-1B aft and aft intermediate fuselage sections back in the late 80's)

[Ike 2K#]

Originally posted by Fridaddy
The MiG-25 was designed to counter the XB-70 "Valkyrie"

Then after the XB-70 was cancelled, The MiG-25 is now designed to counter the SR-71 with its AA-11 AMOS and AA-9 ACRID missiles.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by GScholz
Hmm ... B-1B is only capable of transonic speed, Tu-160 is supersonic. True, B-1B has better systems. Both have intercontinental range. Tu-160 radar signature is bigger, yet its high cruising speed makes it a more dificult target to intercept. The Tu-160's primary payload is 12 or 24 cruise missiles, so the Patriot doesn't factor in at all. With the 12 missile loadout it doesn't even have to enter US airspace.

The B1B is capable of mach 1.2, making it supersonic. You're right about the cruise missiles but then that limits the Blackjack to coastal targets.

[pugg666]

Is it just me or is she one sexy plane?

had one at the Montreal/Mirabel airshow a few years ago, loud as hell but oh so sweet







Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber
Builder: Boeing, North America (formerly Rockwell International, North American Aircraft)
Operations Air Frame and Integration: Offensive avionics, Boeing Military Airplane; defensive avionics, AIL Division
Power plant: Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engine with afterburner
Thrust: 30,000-plus pounds with afterburner, per engine
Length: 146 feet (44.5 meters)
Wingspan: 137 feet (41.8 meters) extended forward, 79 feet (24.1 meters) swept aft
Height: 34 feet (10.4 meters)
Weight: Empty, approximately 190,000 pounds (86,183 kilograms)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 477,000 pounds (216,634 kilograms)
Speed: 900-plus mph (Mach 1.2 at sea level)
Range: Intercontinental, unrefueled
Ceiling: More than 30,000 feet (9,144 meters)
Crew: Four (aircraft commander, copilot, offensive systems officer and defensive systems officer)
Armament: Three internal weapons bays can accommodate up to 84 Mk-82 general purpose bombs or Mk-62 naval mines, 30 CBU-87/89 cluster munitions or CBU-97 Sensor Fused Weapons and up to 24 GBU-31 JDAM GPS guided bombs or Mk-84 general purpose bombs
Date Deployed: June 1985
Unit Cost: $283.1 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars)
Inventory: Active force, 72; ANG, 18; Reserve, 0

[Octavius]

Always reminded me of a giant catfish with the two fins below the nose

That second pic looks like a poodle!

[Ike 2K#]

Originally posted by GScholz
Hmm ... B-1B is only capable of transonic speed, Tu-160 is supersonic. True, B-1B has better systems. Both have intercontinental range. Tu-160 radar signature is bigger, yet its high cruising speed makes it a more dificult target to intercept. The Tu-160's primary payload is 12 or 24 cruise missiles, so the Patriot doesn't factor in at all. With the 12 missile loadout it doesn't even have to enter US airspace.

Plus the Tu-160 has a standoff range of more than 100 miles and it can release its AS-16 Kickback that weights almost 3000 lb to kill the Patriot's radar and make it useless

[mjolnir]

Now THIS is a thread that I know something about! (Gonna hopefully be flying one of these things in a couple years)

originally posted by pugg666
Power plant: Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engine with afterburner

For those who don't know, that means it has 4 F-16 engines on it.

originally posted by pugg666
Armament: Three internal weapons bays can accommodate up to 84 Mk-82 general purpose bombs or Mk-62 naval mines, 30 CBU-87/89 cluster munitions or CBU-97 Sensor Fused Weapons and up to 24 GBU-31 JDAM GPS guided bombs or Mk-84 general purpose bombs

That means 84 500 pounders (28 per bay).  The B-52 can only carry about 60 or so internally, although the buff is still allowed to use its external wing points so it can carry a higher total amount(I'll squeak more about that in a minute).  This is also more than the B-2 can carry.  Also of note, it can carry 24 2000 lb JDAM GPS guided bombs, 8 per bay on rotary launchers.  The B-2 can only carry about 16 of these.

One thing it didn't mention on that fact sheet is that often times, if it's going to be an extremely long flight, they can load up the aft bay with a giant gas can and really increase their effective range without needing to find a tanker.

The B-1b does have external hard points for carrying CALCMs, ALCMs, and Harpoon missiles (ship sinkers).  Unfortunately, it has been allowed to use them ever since we signed the START and START II treaties with Russia.  I would hope that the Blackjack was similarly hamstrung by that treaty.  This is the reason that you only ever see B-52s launching CALCMs on CNN these days.

originally posted by GScholz
Hmm ... B-1B is only capable of transonic speed, Tu-160 is supersonic.

As Iron pointed out, the top speed on the B-1b is Mach 1.25, which is by every definition supersonic.  The top speed on the B-1a was about M2.5, but with the redesign, they put dividers in the air intakes, which had two effects:  1, it cut the top speed in half, but 2, it greatly reduced the radar cross signature given off by the engines.

originally posted by Octavius
Always reminded me of a giant catfish with the two fins below the nose  

That second pic looks like a poodle!

I agree the canards make it look a little odd, but try to picture it without them.  Same goes for the shockwave



And as a side note.....

originally posted by Ike2k
The MiG-25 is now designed to counter the SR-71

Umm.....I know the MiG-25 is fast, but there's no way in hell it could catch a SR-71.  The unclassified top speed on those suckers was Mach 3.5+.   That + was there for a reason.

edit:  pictures wouldn't link correctly.

[davidpt40]

Top speed doesn't mean a whole lot.  Spending any amount of time at full throttle means that you will be out of fuel very soon.  Flying low, fast, and with a low radar signature is MUCH more effective than high, fast, and lighting up every radar scope for 500 miles.

[mjolnir]

Ok GScholz, I see your point.  I was defining supersonic in laymen's terms as "Greater than the speed of sound (Mach 1.0)."  But now that I understand your question, let me do a little digging and get back to you.  I know the B-1b requires afterburners to get to that speed, but whether it can then sustain speeds of greater than M1.0 without AB on or not, I'm not sure.

Also, side note, be careful with the use of the term "supercruise."  That term is now being used with reference to the F-22, because it can get up to M1.4 without ever using AB.  The Concorde may be able to hold a higher speed without them, but it does need AB to get to that speed in the first place.

[AKIron]

GScholz, which do you suppose would be more useful. A bomber that can hit an enemy's coast, thus provoking the launch of several thousand ICBMs, or a bomber than can quietly infiltrate deep into the heart of an enemy country possible knocking out many of those ICBM sites before they can launch?

[GtoRA2]

What band and whats the song title?

[Kanth]

wow nice vid/music and pictures

thanks!

[Kanth]

band: Drowning pool

title: Bodies

album: Sinner

on the xXx soundtrack.

Originally posted by GtoRA2
What band and whats the song title?