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Offline john9001

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« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2003, 01:56:53 PM »
to paraphrase that blond singer with the squeaky voice........"he's not so innocent"
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« Reply #61 on: November 11, 2003, 01:59:37 PM »
Sandman
 Hey where did you get this new info?

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« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2003, 02:00:48 PM »
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American Justice at work.  Thank God.  One more threat to society off the streets.

Good work.

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Why is he a threat?

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Who knows.  I guess we'll find out when he is charged and goes to trial.

I have complete faith in our justice system.

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Guess that's the difference. I have absolutely no faith in Ashcroft.
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« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2003, 02:07:49 PM »
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Sandman
 Hey where did you get this new info?


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93944,00.html

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« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2003, 02:12:11 PM »
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What right do you have to "public disclosure". The guy has a lawyer, a judge agreed with governments position and ordered him held. Thats "due process".


Not exactly true..... The judicial system has been giving deference to the government. However, the government has lost several "motions" before the court.

And the Supreme court will make a decision concerning the detainees... which means the claims that citizens are not getting their "due process" are with merit.... are significant enough to be considered and have the Supreme court step in to clarify and put to rest the legality of what the government is doing.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/10/scotus.detainees/index.html

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« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2003, 02:23:09 PM »
even if he is guilty for whatever. The man is a US citizen and if his rights were violated in anyway or he did not recieve due process someone needs to pay for that. This isnt nazi germany( as many of you would like it to be minus the jew killing), your innocent untill proven guilty.

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« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2003, 02:29:38 PM »
That guy wasn't a "detainee" he was held as a material witness. Ultimately, he was charged, confessed and plead guilty to a "real crime". The fact that the public wasnt made aware of why he was being held as a material witness has no bearing on those "detainees" mentioned in the article you linked.

Apples and Oranges

Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2003, 02:57:55 PM »
Sandman.....


Uh.....Saburo....


Care to comment?

Hello?

Is this thing on?

Your little Martyr was going to fight for the Taliban and Al-Quaeda and Kill american soldiers...


Hello?

See, now if I was Sandman or Saburo, I would be a big man about this, wipe the egg off my face and say, "You know what, I was wrong."

Guys?

Your just gonna forget this thread ever happened?

It's easier to run and hide than to face your mistake.

C'mon guys, suck it up.....

Offline mrblack

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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2003, 03:11:35 PM »
How many Lawyers do we have on the board?
And If so how many In constitutional LAw.
In other words none of us know CHIT!:aok

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« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2003, 03:15:22 PM »
I think Miko worked for a law firm for a while..

Not sure, though.

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« Reply #70 on: November 11, 2003, 03:16:29 PM »
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How many Lawyers do we have on the board?
And If so how many In constitutional LAw.
In other words none of us know CHIT!:aok


I know he pled guilty.

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« Reply #71 on: November 11, 2003, 03:17:56 PM »
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I know he pled guilty.


RGR THAT LOL:aok

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« Reply #72 on: November 11, 2003, 03:32:23 PM »
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I'm not a lawyer, but ...The lawyers at the ACLU certainly believe there are Constitutional "issues" with this case.


The ACLU?! Oh, for the love of...!!:mad:

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« Reply #73 on: November 11, 2003, 03:41:58 PM »
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In other words none of us know CHIT!:aok


Not true...I know chit, when I see it, or step in it, ...or READ IT!

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« Reply #74 on: November 11, 2003, 04:20:21 PM »
His guilt or innocence is irrelevent. It is not OK for our government to take away our rights without due process.