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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #120 on: April 08, 2003, 12:14:23 AM »
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It's the minutes for the meeting.  Not one of those resolutions authorised a change of the Iraqi government.


see?
The price of Freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, any time and with utter recklessness...

...at home, or abroad.

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« Reply #121 on: April 08, 2003, 12:14:48 AM »
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Does your site point out UN views and resolve against Iraq, or only anti-American BS?
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Yes it does, but once again why don't you read the actual documentation instead of relying on unfounded assumptions.

Why is Sandman sick for doing you a favour and trying to provide you with more information about a topic that you appeared to know more about?


so you agree that the site only points out anti-American BS then

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« Reply #122 on: April 08, 2003, 12:16:44 AM »
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Personal attacks huh? point out a personal attack.


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lol SM, before I viewed your link I had a little repect for you.


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SM, you seem to be a sick person and I will no longer give you the pleasure of a response on this BBS.


There are no direct insults, but these statements are about me and my character. These statements are not about the articles I linked to.

Oh... and good to see you still can't resist responding. :D
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« Reply #123 on: April 08, 2003, 12:19:51 AM »
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Tell all of us dim-wits on this BBS how the US is in violation of UN resolution 1441 again.


No need to insult yourself.  

Let me us plainer english.

-1441 as well as others reaffirms Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity.

-US invades Iraq.

-US violates Iraq terrortorial integrity.

-Iraq not sovereign (or authority) over territory held by US.

-US violates Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity.

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« Reply #124 on: April 08, 2003, 12:20:17 AM »
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There are no direct insults, but these statements are about me and my character. These statements are not about the articles I linked to.

Oh... and good to see you still can't resist responding. :D


Personal attacks huh? What world do you hail from?

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« Reply #125 on: April 08, 2003, 12:23:25 AM »
I define a "personal attack" as anytime the focus of a message or statement is directed toward perceived qualities of the poster, rather than content of the poster's message.
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« Reply #126 on: April 08, 2003, 12:23:26 AM »
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No need to insult yourself.  

Let me us plainer english.

-1441 as well as others reaffirms Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity.

-US invades Iraq.

-US violates Iraq terrortorial integrity.

-Iraq not sovereign (or authority) over territory held by US.

-US violates Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity.


Iraq is sovereign as we type.

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« Reply #127 on: April 08, 2003, 12:23:44 AM »
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so you agree that the site only points out anti-American BS then


No.  You misunderstood me.  Unlike you I actually checked out the site so I know your assumption is unfounded and and based on your imagination.  Showing a bit of paranoid tendencies.  

You of course, could have put your unfounded fears to rest by taking a couple of seconds and checking out the site.  But you appear to want keep your delusions about it instead.

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« Reply #128 on: April 08, 2003, 12:26:37 AM »
If a nation is allowed under the UN Charter, to wage war in self-defense, then it also seems logical that it should be allowed to wage war on behalf of another nation victimized by aggression.  In criminal law this is called the "defense of another" excuse, and the aiding party has the same right to use the same degree of force that the original victim could legally use in his/her self-defense.  And could anyone claim that Kuwait had no right to do anything more than throw the aggressor over the border, that it could not carry the war all the way to Baghdad, if Kuwait had the power?  So the United States in 1991, could legally have taken the war to Baghdad and done the job then.  And Saddam must have realized this, or he would not have agreed to the terms of the cease-fire agreement.  He has broken the terms of the agreement he signed to preserve himself in power; his probation has been revoked, and the 1990-1 War is back on again, with a final and better outcome this time, may God grant.

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« Reply #129 on: April 08, 2003, 12:27:20 AM »
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Iraq is sovereign as we type.


No it's not.  You just don't know what the word means in this context.

If it was sovereign than the Iraqi government would have supreme authority over all terrority within it's international recognised boarders.  It does not have supreme authority over territory that has been conquered by US and GB forces.

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« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2003, 12:29:21 AM »
One reason I keep posting is to further expose these guys...

Seems to be a couple of pretty twisted folks here in my opinion.

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« Reply #131 on: April 08, 2003, 12:30:25 AM »
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He has broken the terms of the agreement he signed to preserve himself in power; his probation has been revoked, and the 1990-1 War is back on again, with a final and better outcome this time, may God grant.


I agree he has broken the terms.  But it up to neither you, I or the US to determine that.  It's up to the party to which the cease fire was agree upon.  The UN security council.

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« Reply #132 on: April 08, 2003, 12:31:40 AM »
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No it's not.  You just don't know what the word means in this context.

If it was sovereign than the Iraqi government would have supreme authority over all terrority within it's international recognised boarders.  It does not have supreme authority over territory that has been conquered by US and GB forces.


Iraq is sovereign as far as you and I know....unless you have some inside inframation.


Germany was Sovereign until they surrendered IMO

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« Reply #133 on: April 08, 2003, 12:34:07 AM »
Thrawn, how is the US in violation of 1441?

Iraq is a sovereign nation as we speak/type ( unless you have some insider information)

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« Reply #134 on: April 08, 2003, 12:37:09 AM »
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One reason I keep posting is to further expose these guys...


That has got to be one of the saddest most childish things I've seen posted in awhile.

Finally realised you don't know anthing about the topic you are debating and trying to find an out eh?  And instead of taking the time to read any documention about the topic you resort to this?  Pathetic.

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Seems to be a couple of pretty twisted folks here in my opinion.


Oh, very twisted.  That whole basing arguements on facts and quoting source material thing is getting me down.  Let's hope it's catching.