Author Topic: lets drop the "you have been captured" thingie..  (Read 905 times)

Offline Grimm

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2003, 10:19:52 AM »
Lazs,

I have a comprimise solution for you...  

Maybe if all the airfeilds were slightly closer together,  That flight back home wouldnt be so long and boring.    Yes, flying a couple sectors to land takes a while.    If those feild were less than a sector apart might help.    

I think if they moved the fields closer together,  you could agree then that the capture rule wouldnt be as bad.

What do yeah think?

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2003, 10:29:32 AM »
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Lazs,

I have a comprimise solution for you...  

Maybe if all the airfeilds were slightly closer together,  That flight back home wouldnt be so long and boring.    Yes, flying a couple sectors to land takes a while.    If those feild were less than a sector apart might help.    

I think if they moved the fields closer together,  you could agree then that the capture rule wouldnt be as bad.

What do yeah think?


Oh, GAWD!! We're back to the "move the bases closer together" endless discussion!!! I think it's time to DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!

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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2003, 01:39:14 PM »
helluva idea grimm... can't see why everyone shouldn't be happy with that one.  you are a very clever lad.

hubert... you don't have to have any damage whatsoever in order for someone to get the kill he would have done nothing.   If someone did damage you and they are still up when you ditch then they would get the credit

deja/minid...  you are being downright beetle obtuse I think..  Just trying to spare a long trip home without screwing up a K/D stat... and... I believe it does take a little to a lot (depending) of skill to ditch.   More than simply droning your way home
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2003, 05:56:08 PM »
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Don't care about the score... you could make it so that you still died or lost 1,000 perks just don't give the credit to the guy who happened to be closest.


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Just trying to spare a long trip home without screwing up a K/D stat


...so is this about score or not?

It sure is easy to post a high K/T if you don't want to rtb and those 1-way fuel loads really let those planes turn. But the K/D can take a real hit. Real frustrating, dunno why HT would set it up that way. But I'm sure Midnight feels your pain ;).
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2003, 06:12:05 PM »
whatabout the guy the compresses in a tough fight, starts augering and ditchs.  I think that is deserved.  Of course it should be tossed when I ditch.

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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2003, 06:59:31 PM »
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the feature promotes lousy gameplay.

lazs


If everyone who is too damn lazy to actually rtb to get another plane could do so without any penalty....that would promote lousey gameplay.

If you ditch in capture-land, you didnt take a single bullet, and nobody is within 1.8k of you, no kill is awarded.  Why is that so difficult?

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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2003, 08:58:10 PM »
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I believe it does take a little to a lot (depending) of skill to ditch.   More than simply droning your way home
lazs


LOLOLOLOL

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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2003, 07:45:17 AM »
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There is nothing inconsitent about furballing and not wanting to give someone a kill.... I don't like to give em one even if they earned it much less if they didn't.


Is the truth of the matter simply that you want to get back to the furball asap but your too stingy just to bail and kive some guy a kill?

If in RL you ditched your plane just out of sight of an enemy airfield what d'ya think would happen to ya?

The system aint broken IMHO so dont fix it.

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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2003, 08:16:20 AM »
I don't have a key set to bail.

Right now the fields are way too far apart.  what happens is that people won't venture out.  they either wait by their own ack or close enough to make it back or they wait till a whole steamroller is leaving for a enemy field..  this is poor gameplay in my opinion... the rfar fields and capture feature also make it much more attractive to fly only late war fast planes.

I would like to fight even if it means going 2 sectors to go to them but... I don't relish the long flight home doing nothing... it was bad enough getting there.   If you get there and there is nothing at all happening... it is even worse.   I liked it when you could just land an enemyu field but they changed that.  If you ditch tho it does save TIME... as it is I simply have to waste more time and ditch a lot farther down the road.   silly really.

If you ditch in enemy territory and are compleatly undamaged and there is a con even sitting on the runway at the enemy field... you are not onlyu captured but he awarded the kill.

score and stats are not the same thing..  I have no idea what my score is but i like to look at my stats.   If you are killed by being "captured" it screws up the stats.   You didn't really get beaten you simply landed or ditched.   I think it screws up the ditched stat to.   K/D would be screwed up too....

And... as I said.. all it does is promote/force the use of late war fast planes and poor gameplay.    The attacker is at penalized even more and the timid are rewarded more.

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2003, 09:02:56 AM »
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whatabout the guy the compresses in a tough fight, starts augering and ditchs.  I think that is deserved.  Of course it should be tossed when I ditch.


How does one "start" to auger and then "stop" the auger so that they can get a "ditch" ?

I aways thought the typical "start" of an auger is the second your prop first touches the ground and the "stop" of the auger is second when your elevators touch the ground. So, at what point does one get a chance to ditch.
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2003, 09:43:05 AM »
I think the main issue is giving a kill to some smuck who happened to be close.  Make it hurt my score if I'm captured, but don't give credit to someone unless they got a ping in at least.  At least then, you can argue the ping forced me down.

Of course, I think everyone benifits from the vicinity kill rule, at some point.  I'm ok with leaving it like it is or changing it.  Whatever...

JUST LET ME FLY!!! :p

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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2003, 12:06:09 PM »
Yep... it's not really a big deal... like a lot of things it isn't a game breaker for me but it is inconvienient for me and pointless for my style.

It was just a suggestion.   I didn't know that so many people were married to the concept of capture and getting the freebie proxy kill.
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