Rolling through Baghdad

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Toad
Marching To Baghdad

(To the tune of Marching Through Georgia, with apologies to Henry Clay Work)



Flame away.  

Ahh Toad! this is a good song for baghdad? Are we raping pillaging and burning out civilians on the way? . "Marching Through Georgia," an upbeat tribute to General Sherman’s nightmarish 300-mile March to the Sea, is contrasted with images of the stark devastation he left behind. Ironically, it was Sherman--always sympathetic to the South and no friend to blacks--who delivered the event that saved Lincoln’s presidency, and probably the Union. The stunning finality of Atlanta's fall rocked public opinion on both sides to a degree we find it hard to imagine today. The hard finality of Sherman's treatment of Atlanta--and much of what was unlucky enough to lie between it and the sea--not only ended McClellan’s bright hopes to unseat Lincoln, but legitimized the strategy of "total war."

I was liking and respecting your posts before this drivel.

[Toad]

Ah, I knew the Rebs would take offense. I was born in Florida, I think it was over States Rights.

But sometimes, you have to let it go and move on, eh?

It's a parody. Relax.

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Toad
Ah, I knew the Rebs would take offense. I was born in Florida, I think it was over States Rights.

But sometimes, you have to let it go and move on, eh?

It's a parody. Relax.

Well that song is pretty much reviled here in the south.
It just pisses me off  
And its not a good analogy either imo.

But frankie say relax....




btw I was born in Pensacola.

[Reschke]

Originally posted by Boroda
No, I don't play AH. I said it many times before.

I play WB, but not at iEN servers. Use Google and try to find some things about Russian WB server. I am not going to advertise it here or post any links. Anyway I think you'll enjoy I-153 and Ki-27

Sounds like piracy to me.

http://planeta.terra.com.br/servicos/nicae/faq.htm

33. Is FH legal? Does it have anything to do with -ITMO-'s SUN-JAVA based server for WB v2.70?

Following below is a letter sent by iEN to the Russian Trade in USA. Afterwards you will find a sequence of comments and explanations from the FH team answering many questions you may have.

=================Original message text===============
Dear Mr. Akhrimenko,

I represent a U.S. based software company that develops state of the art software. Recently it was discovered that someone gained entry to our secure systems and obtained software with out permission. This software is now being run for profit on several internet servers located in Russia (Moscow) and Poland. This is clearly a violation of both Russian and U.S. copyright laws and a violation of international trademark laws. The parties who obtained the software make no attempt at hiding and in fact have tried to extort our company by offering to shut down the servers for a large sum of money. These parties are also freely
distributing the software throughout Europe, illegally. We respectfully plead with you to use common law and authority to put a stop to this immediately as our company is losing money each and every hour that passes. Below I provide information that I have so far.....please help! Please tell us what we can do...these servers must be shut down and possibly the thief's punished by law. These parties are also making denial of service attacks on U.S. based servers. Can you shut down while we debate the laws? Please advise.....Thank you.

Rich Roberts
732-840-8157

Our Company : Ientertainment
Software Pirated: Warbird's (TM)
Russian Servers : 212.1.224.39 which runs on internal net of ru.ti,
Tor Information NOC, Blg 9-2, New Basmannaya st., Moscow 107207 Russia.
Phone: +7 095 265 1072, email contact: noc@ti.ru.

195.208.34.5: Emnet-Fsu-2, Information and publishing
Department..Mathmatical Branch Russian Academy of Sciences, room 2012, Leninsky prosp., 32a, Moscow, Russia. Contact: Nikolai Repin...+7 095 938 1902, Email: repin@ips.ras.ru

Website: http://home.udmnet.ru/aike/
ISP: Udmurtian Republic Network
206 Karl Marx str, 426057 Izhevsk, Russia
Contact: Alexander S. Mesherjakov...+7 3412 510505..email: mas@izhcom.ru

Software Pirates Identified so far:

Pavel Pavlov....email address...tengrie@sky.chph.ras.ru
Alex Inozemcev....email : alex_1@udmnet.ru
Yuri Nikitin
Igor Borodin
Sergey Kogan
Sergey Hlupnov
Fedor Ashanin

==============End of original message text===========

FH comments:

(0.HITECH's team of developers quit IMOL and founded HTC with AcesHigh game. IEN (new names of IMOL) stagnated mmediately. They only managed to add F4F-3 (based on existing F4F-4) and buggy B-24 in two years after HiTech's quit.)

>Recently it was discovered that someone gained entry to our secure systems and obtained software with out permission.

1.Noone of FreeHost staff stole software sources from IEN's secured systems.

2.Finn -ITMO- analysed the game traffic and coded own server on SUN-JAVA. He offered his work to IMOL, and IMOL team offered him a job, but he refused to move to the US. Later, a new IEN team started some futile legal cases against him, and failed.

3.July'99, -ITMO- published the binaries of his server on AGW WB-forum. He allowed any reengineering of his JAVA codes.

4.Poland started to host WB2.70 using -ITMO-'s server, as well as other multiple short living WB-hosts appeared in the world.

5.-AIKE- analysed the game traffic separately from -ITMO- and send bug reports to IEN with ways to fix them for free. -AIKE- was also blamed by IEN. Then -AIKE- coded his own server on ANSI-C, and Sep'99 –IVAN-/--UF-- and BORODA hosted it in Moscow.

6.-AIKE- offered full sources of server, as well as YAK-1 and I-16 models, to IEN for free, and this offer was renounced by IEN.

>This software is now being run for profit on several internet servers located in Russia (Moscow) and Poland.

7.Nor Moscow host neither Polish host gained profit from hosting WB.

>This is clearly a violation of both Russian and U.S. copyright laws and a violation of international trademark laws.

8.WB client software is free for copying and use. IEN has not registered an exclusive right to host WB. No Russian laws were violated, and even a violation of any US laws still have to be proven.

9.Our community respects WarBirds™ and we all remember that HITECH and IMOL/ICI made it. No other duties required by © of IEN-WB client software.

10.FreeHost game is named FreeBeerds™, though it uses WarBirds client software (that is free, if you remember).

>The parties who obtained the software make no attempt at hiding...

11.Of course, because we are not criminals and obey the laws of our countries.

>... and in fact have tried to extort our company by offering to shut down the servers for a large sum of money.

12.-AIKE- offered $25000 to IEN wanting to buy and host a limited server, like the German WB server (for WB2.01) that existed for almost 3 years.

-AIKE-'s English is not perfect, but I saw that letter, and it could not be understood as if -AIKE- requested money from IEN.

>These parties are also freely distributing the software throughout Europe, illegally.

IEN distributes the software for free, and any distribution of the WB FE is limited only to IEN's EULA, that we obey.

13.-ITMO- and -AIKE- are authors of their software and have full rights to publish their own work. But -AIKE- doesn't publish his server.

>We respectfully plead with you to use common law and authority to put a stop to this immediately as our company is losing money each and every hour that passes.

14.They used any possible way to falsely accuse us of the crimes that we didn't commit, turned to calumniations and blatant lies to stop us and showed complete lack of common sense when we offered our research, channels and servers for free so they could improve their product.

15.Probably he is right, but free hosts took a very small part of IEN's community. About 50-100 players totally (by that time).

16.That time politics of FreeBeerds staff was to restrict information about FreeBeerds to minimise economical harm to IEN. Americans and other foreigners in Moscow host have come lead by own initiative, and may be conflicting with IEN personally. FreeBeerds is not responsible for them.

17.But after all the calumniations lies and nationalistic abuses we had from IEN we can say that now we are free from any moral obligations towards IEN. More to say: any cooperation is impossible before they will present an official withdrawal of any accusations and apologise for it in public.

>These parties are also making denial of service attacks on U.S. based servers.

14.Noone of FreeHost staff attacked IEN for DoS.

Finally, It is a nice example of their traditional policy of lies and false accusations.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Boroda
No, I don't play AH. I said it many times before.

I play WB, but not at iEN servers. Use Google and try to find some things about Russian WB server. I am not going to advertise it here or post any links. Anyway I think you'll enjoy I-153 and Ki-27

 Do you play on WB freehost?  Then come here and spew russian BS?

 HT,  do you still hate everybody that has anything to do with WB freehost?  Is a buh by to boroda in order?

[Smut]

Originally posted by Udie
Do you play on WB freehost?  Then come here and spew russian BS?

 HT,  do you still hate everybody that has anything to do with WB freehost?  Is a buh by to boroda in order?

SECONDED!

-Smut