Situational awareness and "it's overmodelled..."

[iculus]

I'm certainly no ace online, but one thing that works just fine for me is to be aware of the performance of AC in question (i.e. "it's porked, it overmodelled"), and take that into account as to whether or not I engage, and how I engage.  

If I get shot down, it's because I let my guard down.  The other pilot is NOT a dweeb, regardless of what plane he/she flew.  They deserve a *salute* no matter what the situation.  They flew their plane better than I flew mine, and used better judgement than I.  Notice the best pilots in AH don't fly the "overmodelled" planes.

I'm not saying that we should not be critical , and just accept everything as is...but sometimes we must modify our own flying style rather than expect HTC to fix or change something we don't like.

Salute,
IC  

[Ice]

Agreed!

The exception here is something about the trajectory of the 50's and i still haven't figured out what is different in 104

Ice

[RAM]

Sometimes you engage a con that you know he has less E than you and you see him catch you in a quite incredible way. Those times that you know that you are faster and that you are higher, yet the other guy comes after you and catches you in a weird way. Those times you **feel** that something is wrong, and those times ,when it happens to me, I say it.

Believe it or not, each time I am outflown ,or each time I have a hard fight (won or lost) I hit the buffer with a heartly <S>. Last day I have met Jarsci two times, one I jumped him other he jumped me. I did my best on both fights and I got outflown (hehe the second was a close call ,tho    ). The <S> on the second fight was in the buffer before I hit the ground. (in the first one I had to log off quick, I had to do a couple of RL tasks, but I saluted him in SEA this evening)

But other times I just get raged of what I see. Like this morning , I saw a tiffie and Spit on a fellow knight's rear, and me and other knit dived on them to clear our mate's six. After we did it, I got the tiffie's six for a second and the spit dived on me to make me break, so clearing him. The tiffe ran away and let the spit alone to tangle with all three of us. We got the spit after some nice flying on his side, and he got a big <S!> from me...but the Tiffie pilot got a "coward" from me in the buffer .He let his teammate alone with 3 enemies just when he had saved his skin.

Other times I find planes that come from 10K over me to HO my plane. I used to ahve a big problem with this before, now I dont use to have it any more. Still if someone does such a stupid move on me, be sure that he will get no S! from me.

Some people thinks that after fighting all the people they have to salute them. I think that a S! shows respect for the skills of the enemy. If the skill of the enemy is lacking, if he doesnt earn my respect then its sure he wont get a salute from me.

at least this is how I see it, and I know that I will be flamed and called everything to say what I think. This is a game, but an interactive game.Tou interact with human beings. If you are more worried about your score than about a teammate's "life",even virtual, then it says a lot about you in real world...

Is my point of view. And I know that people will flame me for it. But as I feel it, I say it.




[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-21-2000).]

[Yeager]

You need to understand a few things.

What they are I dont know but you need to understand them.....

Yeager

[Nash]

Ram,

In regards to you calling the tiffie a coward, I have a few questions for ya.

What was the tiffie's fuel state?

What was the tiffie's ammo state?

Do you know if the tiffie just finished helping the spit with that Knit? Do you know if the tiffie radiod the spit to tell him that he had to bug out due to low/no ammo/fuel? Do you know if the spit ignored this, and got in further trouble with the knit? Do you know if the tiffie reversed yet again to help his countryman out, only to get outta dodge when you two arrived knowing there was just nothing he could do to help?

You called him a coward - u must know these things, right?

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Nash:
What was the tiffie's fuel state?

I guess that good. He had no problems to run after the other guy for 10 miles and then I saw it buggin out towards one of our fields. So no fuel problem can be here...if you have them you break towards your side, right?

What was the tiffie's ammo state?

I don't mind. Even with few ammo, you can help a mate to go out of a problem. I have done it several times, to dive in cons with 7.9mm bullets only in my A5. Anyway I doubt he had ammo problems, the spit driver would've told me

Do you know if the tiffie just finished helping the spit with that Knit? Do you know if the tiffie radiod the spit to tell him that he had to bug out due to low/no ammo/fuel? Do you know if the spit ignored this, and got in further trouble with the knit? Do you know if the tiffie reversed yet again to help his countryman out, only to get outta dodge when you two arrived knowing there was just nothing he could do to help?

Yes I know most of it. I talked with the Spit guy as I said before. The opening situation was, the knit, the tiffie following it and the spit a bit behind. The tiffie was the one chasing as the Spit was lagging behind. So I doubt the tiffie had ANY problems at all...or maybe the problems came out suddenly when we dived on them  


 

You called him a coward - u must know these things, right?

as you see, I know them.



[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-21-2000).]

[Nash]

Fair enough... I guess. <shrug>

[hazed-]

ive had similar experiance once with one of the top pilots who i dove 15k to help out and then he left me to fight his persuers alone.I was livid with anger at having been left to die swaping my bellybutton for his but i found out later after sounding off my anger that he had half a wing  
just thought id mention that intial anger is usually unreasonable because you have been killed and judgement is impaired.
if he does regularly leave his teammates to die they will stop flying with him and that is its own justice.
i wont leave my squadies behind even with low fuel/ no ammo. just scaring them off your buddies 6 is enough so i attack like ive got ammo.if i do leave its a critical problem and ill usually call on radio to let em know.
but i know what you mean ram and if he did hes a sad pilot  
hazed

[Minotaur]

LOL  

My BBS SA is way up.  If I see a RAM longish post I click on the "Back" button.

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[Pyro]

That's very true Iculus.  It's been that way as long as I've been playing and I can't ever see it ending.  The film viewer is the greatest asset for overcoming this if it's used effectively.  In the old AW days, I used to study films religiously to see what went right and what went wrong and make adjustments to my flying based on that.  

The other interesting thing is that it can show you how your brain makes a lot of assumptions and fills in a lot of details both during observation and in recalling memory.  An interesting thing to do is to fly in an event and record it.  After the event, write up an AAR with as much detail about all the circumstances and what happened as you can remember.  Then go back and watch the film and see how closely it matches what you wrote.  The differences can be very surprising.



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