Author Topic: Underground Nucleur lab discovered (Read 1984 times)

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #30 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:31:55 AM »

Bodhi if you even think that attacking any of those countries is anything like going to Iraq you must be dumber than dumb.

The coalition took iraq in the way they did only because the army had no real will to fight.

Oh, and most of the countries you mentioned there have nukes and means to deliver them.. You must be real delusional to even think anything in that direction.. Lol.

Dowding · « **Reply #31 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:57:02 AM »

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The beauty of weapons grade plutonium is that nowadays, scientists can tell where (and where it didn't) come from. Guess what France, Russia, and Germany... your illegal regimes are close to coming to an end as well!

This is a ludicrous statement on two distinct levels.

Firstly, None of those countries would sell weapons grade plutonium to anyone. You're deluding yourself if you think they would.

Secondly, the 'illegal regimes' part. I mean, who do you think you are to brand democratically elected, capitalistic, free countries as 'illegal'? I'm sorry, but that's just plain idiotic and does not sit well with reality.

Eagler · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2003, 05:42:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Animal
It would not make much difference at this point, other than for "HA! I told you so!".

Just plant one of the darned things like it was probably the plan B and move on to a country that needs real help.

like PR

Animal · « **Reply #33 on:** April 11, 2003, 05:54:34 AM »

Yes, please come here and help us clean our corrupt puppet government.

Oh, wait...

SirLoin · « **Reply #34 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:09:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
A lab isn't a weapon.

Would they have produced a weapon and tried to use it? Most highly possible, but not absolutely.

After all, the very regime has fallen and we still haven't seen any use of "weapons of mass destruction" against anyone. The only instance was the big fiasco where everyone got excited and started cursing Iraq when they HEARD that some US soldiers were donning chemical-protectove gears. Woops, sorry, false alarm.

Now, you guys are trying to justify the invasion against Iraq with the discovery of a lab which might have produced a 'weapon of mass destruction' which 'might' have been used against some country or countries.

What's that spell?

Retribution against a crime that hasn't been committed yet.

The 'aggressive agenda to fight against terrorism' your country is pushing, is something that shakes the very fundament of justice which the democratic ideology has held on to for a very long time.

Your government carries the axe, and dons the executioner's hood. Absolute power to destroy which no other single country possesses in the world, a power that can bring down a country to its knees in three weeks.

Think carefully why the democratic system is so keen on dividing power - no one person or institution has the right to both judge and prosecute by oneself. Now, push the scale up to the world level, and we see a single country which wants to act as a advisor, legislator, policeman, judge, and executioner.

You people now support the code that justifies that US can act with impunity to attack a country which it thinks it might be dangerous. Absolute power meets absolute justification.

...

So which country does the US think it might be dangerous, next? Who is to stop your government when it thinks wrong? From playing God with the lives of other people of other countries?

I pray you people change course from the way of thinking that so obsessively grasped Americans since 9.11. Right now, I'm sorry to say it is terrifying to watch so many people craving for vengeance so bloodthirstily, like mad dogs.

Well said.

Martlet · « **Reply #35 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:12:32 AM »

The very existence of that lab is a criminal act in itself.

Bodhi · « **Reply #36 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:58:25 AM »

Siaf__SF, and Dowding,

Does that hook hurt real bad? Sheesh, that bait just plain stunk like.... well, Dowdings underwear.

Hold on, I'll get you some pliers.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #37 on:** April 11, 2003, 10:12:46 AM »

Bodhi if that was baiting, it only shows how low my perception of you folks has sunk with this whole ordeal. I could actually believe you could have been serious while saying that.

And to Kweassa: We don't need to worry, if the US continues the war for a few months, let alone years, GWB will drive the whole economy down the toilet with huge budget deficit, high oil prices and the stock market going down the tubes.

GWB's little crusades will crush even the US economy if he's stupid enough to continue. It was difficult to get international support for even this offensive, let alone the next (theoretical) one.

Martlet · « **Reply #38 on:** April 11, 2003, 10:15:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Bodhi if that was baiting, it only shows how low my perception of you folks has sunk with this whole ordeal. I could actually believe you could have been serious while saying that.

And to Kweassa: We don't need to worry, if the US continues the war for a few months, let alone years, GWB will drive the whole economy down the toilet with huge budget deficit, high oil prices and the stock market going down the tubes.

GWB's little crusades will crush even the US economy if he's stupid enough to continue. It was difficult to get international support for even this offensive, let alone the next (theoretical) one.

LOL

Hortlund · « **Reply #39 on:** April 11, 2003, 10:44:06 AM »

IAEA: "Oh THAT location. We KNEW it was there all along. But now, the USMC troops who found the location have broken our special secret seal, so now this all becomes the fault of the US...somehow"

Can you believe these guys? They sure as he** didnt tell anyone before the war that the Iraqis had a supply of lethal enriched uranium protected by a mighty IAEA-seal.

Nashwan · « **Reply #40 on:** April 11, 2003, 11:05:49 AM »

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Can you believe these guys? They sure as he** didnt tell anyone before the war that the Iraqis had a supply of lethal enriched uranium protected by a mighty IAEA-seal.

The IAEA say there is no enriched uranium at the site, just low grade stuff that would have to be enriched before it was suitable for use as a weapon.

All that's released so far are the results of "preliminary tests"

According to the Fox report:

"The Marine radiation detectors go "off the charts" a few hundred meters outside the nuclear compound, where locals say "missile water" is stored in enormous caverns, reported Prine, who is embedded with the U.S. 1st Marine Division.

"It's amazing," Chief Warrant Officer Darrin Flick, the battalion's nuclear, biological and chemical warfare specialist told the newspaper. "I went to the off-site storage buildings, and the rad detector went off the charts. Then I opened the steel door, and there were all these drums, many, many drums, of highly radioactive material."

Now it's possible the IAEA could have inspected a site repeatedly, and failed to note readings that "went off the charts" several hundred metres away, but I doubt it.

I'd certainly wait for some confirmation before accusing them of lying.

moose · « **Reply #41 on:** April 11, 2003, 11:15:51 AM »

Kwessea, I totally agree with you.

Hortlund · « **Reply #42 on:** April 11, 2003, 11:25:45 AM »

Nash...the material is lethal. Some of it is radioactive enough to kill you...and I dont mean by giving you cancer, Im talking about radioactive poisoning...

a dirty bomb with that material would be unbelievably destructive.

Now the IAEA says they have been keeping the material there...under a UN seal so no one will steal it...are they insane?

Curval · « **Reply #43 on:** April 11, 2003, 11:51:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
A lab isn't a weapon.

No..it is used to MAKE weapons.

Would they have produced a weapon and tried to use it? Most highly possible, but not absolutely.

They have used chemical weapons...do we wait until they USE nukes or more chemical weapons before acting? Why are they producing them?

After all, the very regime has fallen and we still haven't seen any use of "weapons of mass destruction" against anyone. The only instance was the big fiasco where everyone got excited and started cursing Iraq when they HEARD that some US soldiers were donning chemical-protectove gears. Woops, sorry, false alarm.

So?

Now, you guys are trying to justify the invasion against Iraq with the discovery of a lab which might have produced a 'weapon of mass destruction' which 'might' have been used against some country or countries.

What's that spell?

Retribution against a crime that hasn't been committed yet.

Again...do we have to wait until they use them?

The 'aggressive agenda to fight against terrorism' your country is pushing, is something that shakes the very fundament of justice which the democratic ideology has held on to for a very long time.

Thank goodness someone has an agressive agenda against terrorism. It is the only way to protect democracy.

Your government carries the axe, and dons the executioner's hood. Absolute power to destroy which no other single country possesses in the world, a power that can bring down a country to its knees in three weeks.

Back when the USSR was threatening the entire world everyone was pretty happy that the US was able to counter that threat. The end result is that the US has a very powerful military with massive numbers of nuclear (and other) WMDs.

Think carefully why the democratic system is so keen on dividing power - no one person or institution has the right to both judge and prosecute by oneself. Now, push the scale up to the world level, and we see a single country which wants to act as a advisor, legislator, policeman, judge, and executioner.

The problem is that the Mid-East has NO democracy as a general rule. Those countries are run by Royal Families or dictators. The people in these countries have never had a democracy. Before you point a finger at the US point one in their direction.

You say "no one person or institution has the right"...just exactly what text book did you pull that one from? Poli Sci 101? Wonderful theory...but seriously lacking in any real form. Where do these rights (or lack thereof) come from? The UN?

You people now support the code that justifies that US can act with impunity to attack a country which it thinks it might be dangerous. Absolute power meets absolute justification.

We fought a war in 1991 against them. They WERE dangerous. And absolute power means absolute power...not absolute justification. Justification to whom?

So which country does the US think it might be dangerous, next? Who is to stop your government when it thinks wrong? From playing God with the lives of other people of other countries?

North Korea, Syria, Iran etc etc.

I pray you people change course from the way of thinking that so obsessively grasped Americans since 9.11. Right now, I'm sorry to say it is terrifying to watch so many people craving for vengeance so bloodthirstily, like mad dogs.

Every single time I get on an airplane I wonder if some terrorist is going to kill me for no reason other than I am an infidel. I'm not bloodthirsty...I just want to be safe. I think the US is doing a great job in ensuring I am.

...And I am NOT an American...merely a beneficiary of their action.

BigGun · « **Reply #44 on:** April 11, 2003, 11:51:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
A lab isn't a weapon.

Would they have produced a weapon and tried to use it? Most highly possible, but not absolutely.

After all, the very regime has fallen and we still haven't seen any use of "weapons of mass destruction" against anyone. The only instance was the big fiasco where everyone got excited and started cursing Iraq when they HEARD that some US soldiers were donning chemical-protectove gears. Woops, sorry, false alarm.

Now, you guys are trying to justify the invasion against Iraq with the discovery of a lab which might have produced a 'weapon of mass destruction' which 'might' have been used against some country or countries.

What's that spell?

Retribution against a crime that hasn't been committed yet.

What are you saying, we should just wait till they develop a nulear weapon & use it before we act? Your logic is so IGNORANT.

Iraq leaders claimed they had no weapons grade nuclear stuff. This just will confirm the already known.