Author Topic: Green Card Marines (Read 1435 times)

Yeager · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2003, 12:25:28 AM »

Ok...my thoughts have reformed. Nice work fellas

Rasker · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2003, 01:50:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Major_Hans
So I suppose folks from the Virgin Islands and Guam can serve in the US military.

They don't have their own military after all.

Many Irish did this in the Civil War. If I recall entire battalions and even a full regiment were entirely made out of Irish.

There was a full Irish Brigade mainly out of New York; suffered terribly at Frederickburg; was key in defending Cemetary Ridge against Pickett's Charge the third day at Gettysburg. If you watch the film "Gettyburg" you see their green "Harp and Sunburst" ensign at the climax of the charge.

Irish officers on both sides sometimes met under flag of truce, and plotted to invade Canada after the war, and hold it hostage for the independence of the "Auld Sod". There were a few (small) attempts to do this, with dubious results.

Dowding · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2003, 04:14:39 AM »

Oh no, Yeager, some Muslim might get into your country via putting his life on the line! The horror, the humanity!

cpxxx · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2003, 09:45:03 AM »

Just to emphasise not every one serves just to get citizenship. Once you have a green card you will become a citizen in due course if you want to put in the effort. Many just want a military career and or the college credits. Plus there's the other factor all over the world we have been exposed to American movies and TV with the US military heavily featured. There is a hint of glamour associated with it believe it or not.

A lot of Irish still join. One of the papers here featured three one each in the Marines, Army and Navy. One wanted to fly helicopters but can't until a citizen so he's out there in the gulf right now fighting for it. I understand it you must serve two years at least. He apparently wanted to join the US army since he was a kid. That is quite common.

The tough part is getting the green card. It's a lot harder than some Americans think.

anonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2003, 01:41:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Oh no, Yeager, some Muslim might get into your country via putting his life on the line! The horror, the humanity!

yeah whatever dude like i want a muslim four weeks off the boat being accepted to air force so he can join swat team at base with nukes. like i want a dude from china who snuck into America one year ago being allowed to work on aircraft carrier screening taiwan. not everyone a potential spy but you need to honor the threat. ill tell you what theres no way some dude from iran who snuck into england is gonna wind up working on a british submarine. do you really think enemy intel doesnt try to plant guys in military of countries they are tasked with spying on?

Rasker · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2003, 01:44:05 PM »

They've gotta be legal residents, and you can bet there are background checks as well as restrictions.

anonymous · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2003, 01:56:43 PM »

background checks fail more than most know. the dudes who conduct background checks are massively overlogged for TS and higher checks let alone the sub 'secret' checks required for joining military. ive seen guys in advanced training in military where it was found out they werent from America after being in training pipeline for over a year. you got it right there are restrictions but dowding make it sound like nothing to worry about and that not the case at all.

udet · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2003, 01:58:59 PM »

I don't have a green card yet

I know someone in AFROTC who is not a citizens yet but is about to become one, it might have something to do with him getting his comission pretty soon, upon graduating college.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #23 on:** April 12, 2003, 03:50:12 PM »

KILL UDET..HES A WETBACK!! get him out of here!!!!!!!

heheh just kidding..

Chairboy · « **Reply #24 on:** April 12, 2003, 04:03:26 PM »

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yeah whatever dude like i want a muslim four weeks off the boat being accepted to air force so he can join swat team at base with nukes. like i want a dude from china who snuck into America one year ago being allowed to work on aircraft carrier screening taiwan. not everyone a potential spy but you need to honor the threat. ill tell you what theres no way some dude from iran who snuck into england is gonna wind up working on a british submarine. do you really think enemy intel doesnt try to plant guys in military of countries they are tasked with spying on?

Hey, I've got an idea. We should round up all the muslims who are in America and put them in concentrat- er, internment camps until the war is over! Yeah! That way, we can protect ourselves from this threat!

It was shameful when we did it to the Japanese-Americans in WWII, your suggestion that we 'honor the threat' (whatever that means, there is no honor in what you propose) is disgraceful. You imply that all non-caucasians should essentially be either barred from military service or interrogated mercilessly for weeks before entering training, because don't forget, there are some... negros in the Middle East.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #25 on:** April 12, 2003, 04:18:53 PM »

LA MIGRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anonymous · « **Reply #26 on:** April 12, 2003, 05:03:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Hey, I've got an idea. We should round up all the muslims who are in America and put them in concentrat- er, internment camps until the war is over! Yeah! That way, we can protect ourselves from this threat!

It was shameful when we did it to the Japanese-Americans in WWII, your suggestion that we 'honor the threat' (whatever that means, there is no honor in what you propose) is disgraceful. You imply that all non-caucasians should essentially be either barred from military service or interrogated mercilessly for weeks before entering training, because don't forget, there are some... negros in the Middle East.

are you for real? do you understand the difference between not putting an American citizen in an internment camp and giving a non American citizen who is in military access to classified information? where did i imply non caucasian? plenty of caucasian not cleared for sensitive job or information and such. honor the threat means defend against hostile intelligence service hostile intelligence agent and such even when presence not obvious. honor the threat is reason for classifying information. im not against them being in military i spoke up when someone thought concern over non American citizen being trusted with defence of America was not worthy concern. i never implied non caucasian barred from service im the guy that said it wasnt a new practice and it helped them gain citizenship. hello?

udet · « **Reply #27 on:** April 12, 2003, 05:10:16 PM »

Some of the bravest American soldiers in WW2 were of Japanese descent, like that guy that got his arm blown off by a grenade but he kept fighting, I forgot the details.

anonymous · « **Reply #28 on:** April 12, 2003, 05:20:05 PM »

chairboy you ever served in military or been cleared for access to sensitive or classified information?

Chairboy · « **Reply #29 on:** April 13, 2003, 12:35:10 PM »

Anonymous, obviously you haven't, or you would understand the following:

1. Compatmentalization means that not every private has detailed knowledge of all upcoming military action.

2. To get to a level where you DO know this stuff involves some heavy duty background checks.

This is not some 'Star Wars' situation where, once you're in the miitary, you can just 'plug in' and 'interpret the entire imperial network'.

Your post betrays a lack of knowledge, a ridiculously inaccurate view of security, and the disgraceful flavor of racism.