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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2003, 09:22:22 PM »
Bullethead,

Actually that's not true.  Japanese test data is available for some aircraft, and I believe the Ki.84 is one of them.

As to the quality issue.  You Allied fliers don't have it easy either.  If it was modeled correctly our A6Ms would keep on ticking while your fighters (P-40s particularly) would suffer high attrition from mechanical failings.  Of course this is reversed later in the war.  Only the first few batches of Ki.84s were anything like reliable and the N1K2s never were.  The A6Ms were reliable throughout the war though.
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2003, 09:26:11 PM »
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Yes, but the dorsal position is relatively useless in AH.  The dorsal cannon on the Ki.67 accounts for very few kills.  Almost all kills are obtaied with its two 12.7mm tail guns.  Even then it doesn't feel like a lot of firepower.  A single 12.7mm on a slower, more fragile bomber isn't going to do very well.

Also note that the G4M2 has a full 360 degree dorsal turret with a 20mm cannon, not a very limited arc, hand aimed 20mm cannon like on the Helen.

I'd rather have the chance to sacrifice one of my three G4M2s and take out the attacking fighter than have a little more durability, but not be able to kill the attacking fighter quickly enough to save my bomber formation.


2 12.7mm in the tail???

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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2003, 07:21:24 PM »
Karnak said:
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Actually that's not true.  Japanese test data is available for some aircraft, and I believe the Ki.84 is one of them.


But that was using mid-late war Japanese gas, which wasn't as good as the gas the US had.  And the point is, in AH there is only 1 type of gas.  It's not like AW where porking the fuel at a field decreased the octane level.  So everybody's got 100-octane gas all the time, so the Ki84 would fly like it did in the US tests.

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As to the quality issue...


Quality's not an issue because AH doesn't model it.  Every plane is best-case.  Each leaf is hand-picked by a master Cuban cigarmaker and hand-rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins, or whatever the aircraft factory equivalent is.

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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2003, 08:08:05 PM »
I am prety Shure Gas octane is modeled for each plane type, Not all the planes IN AH use the same fuel.

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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2003, 08:36:13 PM »
Bullethead,

Not all aircraft in AH use the same fuel.

The N1K2-J is definately modeled with the crappy Japanese fuel.  The A6Ms are as well and the Ki.61 may be.  I don't know, it all depends on if there was an engine upgrade between the Ki.61-Ic and the Ki.61-I-Kai.
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