Books written by Tom Clancy...

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Hangtime


Annother decent pick.. Stephen Hunters 'Master Sniper, and 'Black Light' as well as 'Point of Impact'. Not too shabby.

 

More than decent IMHO.

Pale Horse Coming... Hunters latest, aint bad either.

[anonymous]

the main dude in 'without remorse' is based on several real life teamguys. clancy interviewed a bunch of guys in the teams before he wrote that book. theres a guy who was in the teams that actually owned a small island and would kayak out there to chill out and hunt and camp away from everything from time to time. the book was still gay tho. like some guy is gonna fall in love with a hooker and break down crying in her arms because of the 'horror'. the moment that dude was on the boat and had less than four hookers with him it became fiction or more likely horror fiction. red storm rising is cool especially for anyone in military in 1980s. i think red october popularity with military guys went to clancys head tho. he fall into same trap that too many writers do. some of most dangerous dudes i know spend free time watching walt disney flicks with the kids not sharpening knives or having hollywood ptsd attacks. unless you know the faces the only way to tell if the guys drinking in dannys are SEALs or not is if they play theme to goodfellas like sixty times in a row.

[Reschke]

Even with the love theme in "Without Remorse" that was my favorite of all time. Although I think that Clancy took the upriver ride from a WEB Griffin book about a deep behind the lines prisoner rescue.

[anonymous]

the problem is when special operations became really sexy it seems like every guy who ever spent a few years in a unit went and wrote a book. action being slim for several years this means alot of the books either really boring or full of exciting stories that never really happened in the way they told. one of the best book you could read i think its called 'the teams' but its an oral history type book where the authors interviewed several real honest to god badasses and just let them talk. lots of funny stories and some real exciting ones but no bull**** in the book. if you are going to let a book give you impression about the guys who do that type of work thats the book for you. its one of the few books on the subject that the guys who do the actual work actually reccomended to each other for reading. ive had a couple of guys reccomend 'the warrior elite' as well but havent check it out personally. maybe i was wrong saying 'without remorse' was gay but i could have skipped the whole hooker with a heart of gold subset. make the chick his sister and its actually sorta believeable. the planning and work up for the rescue mission and the rescue mission was actually pretty ok. especially because everything didnt go right. but then its probably ok because its inspired by son tay raid and follows real life very close.

[Reschke]

Have read the book you recommend there and I enjoyed it as well. I also liked the books "Point Man" and "Walking Point" by James 'Patches' Watson. A couple of others were "Brave Men, Dark Waters" by Orr Kelly and the three books by Gary R. Smith that he wrote in a series on his time as a SEAL.

[anonymous]

ok now i gotta be a little careful here lest i get into some trouble or piss off somebody. watson is bad ass. his books straight shooters. kelly has lots of buddies in the teams so hes gonna play fair as well. the other books you mention are not as nonfiction as some are lead to believe. some accounts of combat action in those books made guys who were at same action laugh butts off when they read book version of combat action. action told in such a way as to make author look like a superhero. here another example of creative storytelling but different motivation behind creativity. marcinko describe some combat action in his book that is sort of false. operators who work in that line of work were worried when they read book because story of combat make marcinko look 'bad ass' to non operator but operator thinking 'why in hell he doing this?'. real story of combat would be boring from his point of view but in real life he doing exact perfect thing for him to be doing. in rogue warrior there is story where marcinko and his boys are fighting house to house in VN and one of his boys goes into middle of street with 60 and start blazing away and is killed by single bullet to head. in real life marcinko not involved in combat because he oic and is thousand meters to rear with radios and coordinating battle from there which is exactly what he supposed to be doing. also teamguy who was killed not killed in that manner. teamguy was killed as they hauling recoiless rifle up to balcony second floor with ropes to engage heavily fortified mg position on second floor across street from balcony. the dude popped his head up as arm reached over balcony to grab rope further down. mg rounds flying everywhere and one catches him in head or maybe in heart and he dead instantly. first inaccuracy kind of excusable as he trying to tell better story. second inaccuracy not so cool as this guy actually died and some readers will now think that teamguy  went 'rambo' in combat. some other operator reading that book would think that dude lost his cool and died a stupid death. stick with kelly he kind of unofficial historian i think. young is cool hes an old school guy like watson. for 1980s read bad bos book he tells it like it is as well. but for accuracy id say best book is non operator telling story from interviews with operators in my opinion. that reporter who did the story about mogadishu raid is a good example but even that book glossed over some big screwups by high ranking officers involved in raid and other operations.

[StSanta]

Flight of the intruder kicked arse.

Rest of that d00ds books 'jumped the shark'