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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2003, 01:40:10 PM »
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sfod delta is us army unit dude. members of unit are almost all from usasf.


Dude I was 11b b4 75inf
I think I would know what and who the delta force is.
Like I said they Draw there personnel from all branches of the armed forces.

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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2003, 01:42:49 PM »
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 No Green berets are not Delta.. not even close.

Green berets go and train people to rebel in their own country, and some other things.


Delta is all about Counter terror.


this is kind of incorrect info that is kind of insult to green beret not in sfod delta. sfod delta is made up of green beret mostly. they get more training in specific skills. green beret are close to sfod delta. all green beret train for ct. delta train for ct and certain other missions all the time. green beret have other mission to train for so they have limited time to train per mission. you ask a delta operator if hes a green beret hell say yes.

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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2003, 01:45:43 PM »
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Can you recomend any good books on delta?

I had never heard you could join from any service.


very little is really known about the Delta Force.
The Pentagon likes it that way LOL.
You really dont join them they pick you.
My guess would be be a first class special forces operator for a couple of tours and they might take notice of you.
You would need some college and be highly motivated.
They are very bright fellas.
Although I have never met a Delta Force Dude.
I have known many SOG members and they are sharp as a tack.
They used to tell Rangers you guys are sledge hammers and we are the scalpels LOL.

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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2003, 01:46:28 PM »
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Originally posted by rc51
Dude I was 11b b4 75inf
I think I would know what and who the delta force is.
Like I said they Draw there personnel from all branches of the armed forces.


misunderstanding dude i thought you were saying they werent us army. as for personnel from all branches yes but almost all are green berets. ive worked with them before and i still go train with guys from delta at least once sometimes twice a year. hats off to you for ranger qualification by the way. whyd you get out?

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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2003, 01:48:43 PM »
1980
Never got tabbed i was a sniper attached to the 75inf.

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2003, 01:56:12 PM »
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Never got tabbed i was a sniper attached to the 75inf.


ok that date alone explains some things. sfod delta was pretty young back then so probably way more free form if you know what i mean. selection and stuff for them is much more established now and that isnt always a good thing in my opinion. your timeframe and mine differences are like talking about difference between ST-1 in VN and ST-1 in mid 1990s name the same lots of other things very different. i didnt have any contact with sfod delta until early 1990s. what was your weapon when acting as sniper back then?

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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2003, 02:10:50 PM »
I used 2
First was issued m-21
Then was winchester model 70 300win mag.

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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2003, 03:51:43 PM »
You DO NOT have to be SF to join Delta.  You do have to be invited to attend their assessment and selection course.  You do not have to have any prior Special Forces, infantry, or other combat arms experience to be invited.  Their primary initial screening criteria is a certain score on the ASVAB test that everyone takes prior to enlisting. They then screen further using other criteria.

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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2003, 03:57:35 PM »
Staga, you would have liked a documentary show that was on US TV until Iraq took the spotlight away.  It was called "Stories from the Front" or something like that, and each show covered a day of activity for two SF teams in Afghanistan, doing the same stuff as the guys in the link you posted.  Hopefully they will put it back on the air.

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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2003, 04:27:35 PM »
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You DO NOT have to be SF to join Delta.  You do have to be invited to attend their assessment and selection course.  You do not have to have any prior Special Forces, infantry, or other combat arms experience to be invited.  Their primary initial screening criteria is a certain score on the ASVAB test that everyone takes prior to enlisting. They then screen further using other criteria.


hey i believe you. im just saying that from my experience of working and training with them every single delta guy ive ever run into was a green beret. im thinking that the type of selection you are talking about would be for very niche type assignments. if youre one of their shooters id say odds are you came from the typical infantry then ranger then sf background. the screening im talking about is very special operations oriented. shooting and brutal landnav course and such. thats the screening the delta guys ive talked to told me about when they were in sf group and were invited to screen for delta. i mean when they formed the unit it was to have a group of ct specialists. the actual unit name was first special forces operational detachment delta.

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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2003, 06:45:49 PM »
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Their primary initial screening criteria is a certain score on the ASVAB test that everyone takes prior to enlisting. They then screen further using other criteria.


Sorry man but you have been reading to many Tom Clancy books.
Delta Force Is not listed as an MOS.
And getting a good score on asvab won't get you a shot at Delta.
I scored High enough for every thing the Army offerd including OCS.
And I never heard of Delta Force Till I was deep In AIT.
LOL Thats a classic.
Oh Sgt recruiter iwant to be Delta Force.I wonder how many times they hear than in a day?
Now times Have changes since i was in so maybe the program is different now.
I don't kknow the correct numbers but damn few make it threw the selection process.
Like i said you don't pick the job the job picks you.

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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2003, 06:56:30 PM »
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Let's just say I respect some of them more than others.

oh and it has nothing to do with nationality; when I was doing my time in our army I did broke couple noses (one MP)


 I am a MP in the US Army, I am not sure how they do things over there, but you hit an MP in our military..... man.... I can almost hear the bones crunch. That would have been a one way ticket to "asskickin land" Whats worse, we would have cuffed you first. :cool:

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2003, 07:24:41 PM »
I was on a weekend vacation and that MP thought (after couple drinks) that he was a tough guy.
We knew same folks and guess he thought it would be easier for him to just forget what happened that night ;)
Anyway at that time I enjoyed good fights but I had to change my attitude after getting broken bones. I was smacking a guy in the terrace when couple of his friends came up and dropped me down (~1,5-2meters).
Pretty rough landing, Shoulder (Clavicula) hit the ground first and results can still be seen on X-ray pics :D
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2003, 08:58:34 PM »
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Sorry man but you have been reading to many Tom Clancy books.
Delta Force Is not listed as an MOS.
And getting a good score on asvab won't get you a shot at Delta.
I scored High enough for every thing the Army offerd including OCS.
And I never heard of Delta Force Till I was deep In AIT.
LOL Thats a classic.
Oh Sgt recruiter iwant to be Delta Force.I wonder how many times they hear than in a day?
Now times Have changes since i was in so maybe the program is different now.
I don't kknow the correct numbers but damn few make it threw the selection process.
Like i said you don't pick the job the job picks you.


Just FYI....I am currently a SSG in the United States Army. I've been serving for 13 years now. I think my knowledge is a little more current and accurate than your 4 years of service 25 years ago. I have been invited to 3 Delta briefings and attended one last November. The primary criteria they use when screening personnel is the GT score from the ASVAB. You will only get an invite if you are E-5 or above and your GT score is above a certain number (don't recall how high).  1980 was a long time ago dude, get over yourself.

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2003, 10:06:57 PM »
I was in 23 years ago!!
back when men where men and the sheep ran fast!
So what you out rank me I was onlt e-5 LOL.
Hell back when i was in you had to run in boots no tennis shoes.
And they even had steel pots.
Ps the drill SGTS in basic could slap the crap out of you as well.
Today I hear you get a motivational speech.
Hell I never even saw a Delta operater.
But then again they where new back then .