Author Topic: BORODA (or any russians out there) can you translate this for me? (Read 1310 times)

Wlfgng · « **Reply #30 on:** April 18, 2003, 09:48:25 AM »

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Balancing was impossible, since late-40s it was clear that we will be attacked as soon as the "possible enemy" will find any weakness

hmm.. I think your country men (and yourself) belived we would invade given the chance... thing is though, we didn't want to.. all we wanted to do was make sure we weren't taken over by communism..
(and back and forth....)

Boroda · « **Reply #31 on:** April 18, 2003, 09:51:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
The key word in your entire post.......had.

Now, they can't even clean out a group of rebels.

JFYI: we still have manned spaceships and cheapest space launch vehicles per kilogramm. We still can build long-time space life-support systems, that you are unable to design for 30 years.

About cleaning the "group of rebels" - in 1944 they were cleaned in one night. We still can do it, but we do care about human lives.

Our goals are completely different from yours. Your "victory conditions" in Afghanistan were achieved in less then one week in 1979, by "partizans", reservists dressed in WWII uniforms with three-line rifles and PPSh-s (pronounced: "Pe-Pe-ShA). Your "victory conditions" (what is called a "victory" in Iraq) was achieved in one week of hostilites in 1999 in Chechnya.

The problem is that we come not to murder and steal, not to support civil disorder - but to enforce law and stability.

Mratlet, I understand that you are pissed-off by my avatar, but it's not the reason to refuse from employing your brain tissue (if you have some).

Boroda · « **Reply #32 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:04:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Wlfgng
hmm.. I think your country men (and yourself) belived we would invade given the chance... thing is though, we didn't want to.. all we wanted to do was make sure we weren't taken over by communism..
(and back and forth....)

It's a minimax.

I hope you know about plans of nuclear attack on USSR like "Charioter" and so on.

Both sides said they want peace.

The whole damn thing started in 1946, and both sides are guilty.

Europe was turned into a possible battlefield of two superpowers.

We had to live in fear of a nuclear attack. Frankly speaking this fear is still deep in my mind. The first thing I thought about when I heard about 09/11 attack was "damn they will strike us!!!", and I started to look for ICBM warhead trails in the sky

In 1999 I thought that the result of an agression against Yugoslavia will be a full-scale nuclear release...

About Communism - I think for any sane person it can be no more then a religion. In this angle of view I can be called a Communist. I don't believe in social revolutions, working class dictatorship and other crap, I only know that if everyone (me at the first place) will start doing something good for everyone, without any material motivation, the world will be much better. That's what I can call my "personal Communism".

Linux community is a great example of Communism.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #33 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:23:01 AM »

yes I know.. and agree with you.

part of this fear that you still feel today was caused by the governments (your and mine) instilling this fear..for their own purposes..
I admit that for many years, especially after serving during the cold-war, I was fearful and couldn't get it out of my head.
too much info for me at the time.. I was overloaded.

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I only know that if everyone (me at the first place) will start doing something good for everyone, without any material motivation, the world will be much better.

and to that I drink!!! (it is Friday here after all)

Martlet · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:47:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
JFYI: we still have manned spaceships and cheapest space launch vehicles per kilogramm. We still can build long-time space life-support systems, that you are unable to design for 30 years.

About cleaning the "group of rebels" - in 1944 they were cleaned in one night. We still can do it, but we do care about human lives.

Our goals are completely different from yours. Your "victory conditions" in Afghanistan were achieved in less then one week in 1979, by "partizans", reservists dressed in WWII uniforms with three-line rifles and PPSh-s (pronounced: "Pe-Pe-ShA). Your "victory conditions" (what is called a "victory" in Iraq) was achieved in one week of hostilites in 1999 in Chechnya.

The problem is that we come not to murder and steal, not to support civil disorder - but to enforce law and stability.

Mratlet, I understand that you are pissed-off by my avatar, but it's not the reason to refuse from employing your brain tissue (if you have some).

Why would I be pissed off by your avatar?

I'm just amazed that you actually believe every thing you write. It's sad to think someone can get that brainwashed. I'm glad it isn't indicative of all Russians.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2003, 12:18:54 AM »

Man look at these "DICKHEADS"

*note that the "white" missiles are US (small) and "black and gray" ones are the USSR (bigger)

For americans, they dont have to worry because we can E-BOMB (Marlett's wonder weapon) their (russian) nuke silos or the S-300 S.A.M. instalations in the future.

The E-Bomb is under testing phase in the U.S.A. and it makes EVERY electronic equipment from Televisions to Defence instalations USELESS. HEY!!! dont forget to lock the vault to prevent from other countries (like russia) from stealing it.

Check out the E-BOMB technology
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/hpm.htm

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #36 on:** April 19, 2003, 01:38:48 AM »

Hmmm, i wonder if E-bomb warhead can be placed in an air-to-air missile? Instead of obliterating the MiGs into pieces, the E-BOMB will will send signals 5 miles away from the target and "fry" the electronics equipment in the MiGs and make those MiGs offenseless as a force and they will be like a flying "glider" after their systems are "fried".

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #37 on:** April 19, 2003, 03:06:38 AM »

this e-bomb will make marlett happy:rolleyes:

mora · « **Reply #38 on:** April 19, 2003, 11:44:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
For americans, they dont have to worry because we can E-BOMB (Marlett's wonder weapon) their (russian) nuke silos or the S-300 S.A.M. instalations in the future.

The E-Bomb is under testing phase in the U.S.A. and it makes EVERY electronic equipment from Televisions to Defence instalations USELESS. HEY!!! dont forget to lock the vault to prevent from other countries (like russia) from stealing it.

Check out the E-BOMB technology
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/hpm.htm

What does E-BOMB offer over nuclear warhead? It propably creates much weaker EMP than a nuclear warhead, against which the installations are protected.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #39 on:** April 19, 2003, 02:56:12 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
What does E-BOMB offer over nuclear warhead? It propably creates much weaker EMP than a nuclear warhead, against which the installations are protected.

BUT! the E-bomb it will fry (kill) the guidance systems of the sov-errr russian ICBMs if it launched while the E-bomb is sending waves to fry their system and the ICBMs will fall back to their country:D

davidpt40 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 19, 2003, 03:47:09 PM »

U.S. B52s wouldn't have lasted a minute over Russian airspace.

lotech · « **Reply #41 on:** April 19, 2003, 03:53:25 PM »

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Originally posted by davidpt40
U.S. B52s wouldn't have lasted a minute over Russian airspace.

B-52 just have to launch Cruise missiles with EMP warheads to their silos so the B-52 wont have to risk being "electronically fried".

Nilsen · « **Reply #42 on:** April 19, 2003, 06:05:08 PM »

Looks like something Kongsberg is working on, a surface launched AMRAAM (that is alreay in use called NASAAMS MK2) that has a "re-attack" mode so it can engage attack helos behind hills in oposite direction of launcher facing..

If that made any sence

Boroda · « **Reply #43 on:** April 21, 2003, 08:56:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
For americans, they dont have to worry because we can E-BOMB (Marlett's wonder weapon) their (russian) nuke silos or the S-300 S.A.M. instalations in the future.

The E-Bomb is under testing phase in the U.S.A. and it makes EVERY electronic equipment from Televisions to Defence instalations USELESS. HEY!!! dont forget to lock the vault to prevent from other countries (like russia) from stealing it.

Check out the E-BOMB technology
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/hpm.htm

"E-bomb" is called "Explosive magnetic generator", and was tested here in late-50s. It was one of the works by Andrey Sakharov. We studied such things in college, but noone showed us working models, or given any model names or numbers. Maybe beacause we had the lowest possible classified access, "form three". I was lucky to quit college before I was granted higher access level

Anyway, it's muuuuch less powerfull then nuclear weapon EM impulse, and most of strategic equipment is immune to such attacks. ICBMs are designed using mechanical relays and electronic tubes, at least critical parts. Modern SAMs use transistors and ICs, but many of them (like S-200) use mostly tubes. BTW, it's one of the reasons why Americans were so surprised by Belenko's MiG-25. The problem is to find the right balance between combat effectiveness and protection.

"For every smart prettythang there is a dic|< with a screw"