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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2003, 06:33:04 PM »
Who put the English subtitles on the clips, Maverick?

The BBC has never shown a report of that kind, as far as I know.
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2003, 07:12:40 PM »
Wasn't english subtitles. It was french subtitles according the the report I'd heard. The broadcast was supposed to have been for the french audience, that was why I was asking.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2003, 08:38:26 PM »
there's negative news and positive news

negative news sells better .. human nature
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2003, 02:55:47 PM »
Maverick while what you describe is possible it's highly unlikely, even for the French. Many people in Europe speak English, subtitles that differ markedly from what is being said would be noticed quickly. If it happened at all it was likely to be a localised station. That sounds like a bit of paranoia on the part of the American broadcaster, no doubt with his own agenda.  Few people in Europe can really genuinely believe that American soldiers are some sort of cold blooded killers. We've been exposed to enough American culture to know the truth.

It is certainly not something the BBC would do. Everybody and I mean everybody has accused the BBC of bias at some point or other. Which probably means they are doing their job quite well.

I think perhaps the difference between American and European broadcasters is that the Europeans feel no constraint on airing stuff that reflects on US troops negatively or in fact their own troops as well. Even the most liberal American stations would be reluctant to air anything like that.

An A10 attacked a British unit, making two passes, killing one soldier. This got a lot of coverage, particularly an interview with a wounded Brit who called the A10 pilot a cowboy. That plus the downing of the Tornado stirred up some annoyance.  Did you see any of that on American TV?

Maybe the French media had more of an anti American slant but that's all part of the rather amusing war of words going on at the moment.

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2003, 03:21:52 PM »
CPXXX,

That is why I brought it up. I know that there are more biligual folks overseas than in the US so I thought it would be rather obvious to do this but I had to ask to make sure. It would go a ways in explaining the antipathy towards America from some Euro areas however. That is why I wanted to get an other opinion from someone who would be in position to see a newscast like that.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2003, 09:32:07 PM »
Perhaps it's obvious but then perhaps it's not. Try and remember my Transatlantic friends that Europe is not some sort of monolithic whole, like, well America or the Arab world.  It's a whole lot of countries each with their own culture, language and view of the world.  Sometimes there are different languages and cultures within a border, like Spain, with Basques and Catalans. In Italy some older people Southerners describe Northerners as foreigners. Belgium has two languages, Switzeraland has four.  Germans are very conscious of the regions, Bavaria, Saxony etc.I won't even mention the Irish question, ooops I did. Britain has three countries. It goes on. They all have their own TV and political systems and varying views of America.

Don't make the mistake of thinking what the French say goes in Spain or what the British say goes anywhere.  Indeed the British and Irish still tend to think of Europe as being over there much like Americans do.

Everybody in Europe doesn't think the same about any topic except perhaps having the freedom to express an opinion. The EU may purport to be a United Europe but really it's just of stopping us fighting each other again.

So don't generalise.

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2003, 05:12:31 AM »
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there's negative news and positive news

negative news sells better .. human nature


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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2003, 09:01:53 AM »
My parents were in France on vacation.  While in Paris, they could not get BBC or CNN in their hotel - they were blacked out.  Nice censorship!

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2003, 09:13:41 AM »
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My parents were in France on vacation.  While in Paris, they could not get BBC or CNN in their hotel - they were blacked out.  Nice censorship!


Did they chose a hotel with satellite channel ?

If yes which satellite channel with what options ?