Author Topic: Keep Meigs Open  (Read 1465 times)

Offline guttboy

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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2003, 12:31:37 PM »
Miko....reread your post....by the way....


You can email me at shadow17th@aol.com and I'd be happy to call you on my dime to discuss this...

IN NO WAY am I a Marxist or have marxist ideas....

TWO...just responding to your post.....

AND THREE...I am not attributing ideas to you...you mentioned public property....I brought up Logan Airport....technically it IS PUBLIC PROPERTY....so lets agree to not insult each other and talk about this like rational people....

The name is Mike here btw:)

Look forward to hearing from ya!

Offline miko2d

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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2003, 12:49:30 PM »
Mike,
 I hear you perfectly.
 I do not argue that in general there may be a better use for a piece of land as an airport or some other hobby-supporting facility than as a park - maybe even in this case and I, the mayor and most of Chicago public are misguided in their preference. Would not be the first time.

 But there is no possible way to convince everyone, so the majority is supposedely prevailing here even if some are not satisfied. The numbers indicate that the use of Maigs field dropped drastically over the last decades. May be the needs of the population changed since it was built?

 Of course there are airports in my area. If my kids enjoy flying and I let them, I would have to drive them 40-60 miles to one of the Long Island or NJ airports.

 I had to drive 40 miles to Long Island to shoot my longbow and now I have to do the same to shoot my rifles.

 I, personally do not use the nearby Prospect Park and drive to New Jersey parks on picnicks.

 Personally, I would greatly benefit if a rifle/archery range or even a paintball park was built there. Even if that area gets built with housing, it would cause rents drop for me. Or even a park with greatly upgraded facilities that would charge substantial money for admission to keep the numbers low - time is more pressing than money for me.

 But it was most likely a good idea to have a park, rather than other facilities there so that thousands of families and their children could use it every day rather than watch TV.

 miko

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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2003, 12:56:16 PM »
Miko

Thanks for the reply...seriously though.....

Id like to discuss this withyou......


Drop me an email at that address and ill zap you my phone or you can mine and lets chat.

I would like to hear your opinions...

I know your frustrations on Long Island...my mom is from Franklin Square...spent many a summer on the Island...going over the Throggs neck bridge and past Belmont park to get to my grandparents house.

Lets talk!!!!

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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2003, 01:11:18 PM »
guttboy: IN NO WAY am I a Marxist or have marxist ideas....

 :)

 I thought so, Mike - that's why I put that smile next to the word. It's an irony rather than an accusation, so do not take it personally or as an offence.

 I will try not to insult you but if I ever do so, please bring it to my attention to give me a chance to explain/appologise.

 You would be surprised how many people who have negative gut reaction about privatisation of anything being mentioned or dislike towards free markets find themselves surprised when they find their views coincide with marxist/collectivist dogma.

 Private property and free market are not evil, quite the opposite, they are the source of liberty and prosperity of the western world.


You then presentes privatising BLA as a silly idea in the same phrase where you've addressed me, so I assumed you attributed that view to me.
 I did not argue for privatisation of the Logan Airport or all public property but just for the Meigs Island. BTW, privatising the logan Airport might not have been such a terrible idea.
 All the airlines using it are private and I watched over the years the terrible bungling, delays and overbudget caused by public administration of some airports.
 I an not sure the private ownership could have possibly been worse. Maybe not for Boston, but surely for some.

 I look forward to discussing things with you here. You will find out that on few subjects I involve muself in, I invest time to discuss/explain things properly and clear any misunderstandings.


 miko

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« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2003, 01:16:18 PM »
Mike,

 Phone conversation may not be a good idea. Even if you understand my heavy russian accent, speaking from the office about politics is not advisable to me and once I come home, there is a baby to take care off, etc.

 Anyway, I generally lay down my thougts much more clearly when I have time to compose a note than in a live conversation.

 miko

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« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2003, 09:07:05 AM »
Miko,

Your thoughts are well taken...thanks for responding.  I am not that "keen" at picking up sarcasm or jokes while the smilies are in there....thanks for keeping the discussions live and relevant!

Mike