UN - how did we get into this mess.

[Fishu]

So dumping all the international relationship and becoming a facistic kind of country helps?

[miko2d]

Fishu: So dumping all the international relationship and becoming a facistic kind of country helps?

 What, did anyone suggest recalling  US ambassadors from all countries? Reneging on all treaties? Did anyone recommend not to participate in specific goal-oriented international agreements?
 Were all countries "facistic" before the UN was created?

  Aren't you exaggerating just a little bit?

 For that matter, weren't "facistic kind of countries" pretty active in international relations? Isn't "facistic" state determined by internal arrangement of political and economic control rather than international relations of a country?

 Shouldn't you look up the actual meanings of the words before you use them in public, to avoid embarassment? Maybe look up a word "isolationist" or "aloof" to see if they fit better than "facistic"? Or even just to see how to write the adjective "fascist" correctly? Or was that finicistic spelling you've used?

 miko

[Fishu]

Let's see about that 20 years from now, if US policy keeps going on the same track.

[miko2d]

Fishu: Let's see about that 20 years from now, if US policy keeps going on the same track.

 US policy has an attention span of a mayfly and in 20 years we may all well live under totalitarian dictatorship if the current trends persist.

 But that is not a reason to call my current views "facistic" just because I do not want to make a mockery of Human Rights by my country participating in a Human Rights Commission headed by Libya or Cuba.

 miko

[beet1e]

But, it learned that if you insist on the whole world agreeing on something before doing anything, you'll never get anything done.

Gawd!  I'm in complete agreement with Mini D for the second time on the same day!

Some people might be thinking that the UN is useless in a gloating/self glorifying way. I believe the same thing, but in a dismayed, head-shaking kind of way.

I feel the same about Europe - a united Europe could be great! But we see certain countries acting covertly in their own selfish interests. United States of Europe? Like the single currency, could be great if it would work.... As things stand now? No thanks.