Author Topic: Bombing run (Read 1030 times)

Squire · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2003, 10:46:07 PM »

That was a good run Stream, glad to have helped. We will see what we can do next week. I think 880 can provide the bombers next time too.

o0Stream140o · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2003, 11:14:24 PM »

Well some of my guys were thinking about having a mini TOD in CT maybe like every other week or every two weeks with different things. We just find it boring Furballing or doing cap missions every week. Maybe do a strike mission and take bases, who knows... just putting it out there to see how you guys feel. VF-27 you guys did great.. got some good hits from what I heard on vox. 106th you guys great job, 880 great job flying cover, my mistake and the 325 went to the wrong jump point, so we were a little off, had to much running through my mind being the first time at this. Like to thank the Axis guys too, you guys gave us a run for our money.

Sabre · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2003, 08:25:34 AM »

Sorry I missed it, guys. I laid down on the bed for a few minutes and woke up two hours later.

Sabre
AWOL, but well rested

Nifty · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2003, 08:42:03 AM »

It was fun other than MALTA being the target instead of SICILY as was stated in the above posts.

As such, and also given the amount of DAR bar manipulating the Allieds did, the buffs pretty much got a free drop on Malta before many Axis could make a run at the buffs. It was fun finally getting to make a run, but 15-20 minutes chasing bar dars while thinking the attack was coming up north (so that's where we left from) wasn't fun at all.

Squire · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:39:52 AM »

Joint ops are definately in our future, its good to team up and do things that are not just fighter sweeps, I agree. Let me know whats cooking next, be glad to add some players. 880 and VF-27 have done joint missions before too.

Next week is a Pac setup, I haven't flow the P-38L in a while in the CT, was thinking along those lines.

o0Stream140o · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:10:19 AM »

Cool maybe they will have the Jug or the 51 in there too. Do some attack missions.

o0Stream140o · « **Reply #21 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:13:15 AM »

Sorry Nifty,
The intial drop was at 7,8, or 9, but in mid flight, we saw that Malta was getting pounded and decided to head down there. I don't know about what was going on with dar, wasn't my intention to mess with that. Well next time I plan one I will be better prepared on every aspect.

Skyfoxx · « **Reply #22 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:53:35 AM »

Was a good mission Stream.
I wouldn't sweat the dar thing, we both know there was no intentional "manipulation of the dar". Unless of course you count the LW destroying all allied dar (bar dar and all) as they did last night during the mission. Of course that's not cheesy at all I suppose.
And as far as giving intel to the other side, I would give less not more. I've never been fond of giving the opposition the exact target, but that's just me and I know I'm in the minority on that issue.
I look forward to the next one Stream.

Nifty · « **Reply #23 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:35:51 PM »

from our end, it looked like you guys were skirting sector lines. Maybe it was the dar acting weird, but at one point you had us going several sectors away from your eventual target. Maybe that's when you guys decided to hit Malta instead. At any rate, the bars combined with the BBS pulled most of us WAY out of position to defend Malta. It's not really that big of a deal, my point was it's just not much fun chasing bardar around for 20 mins.

As for not announcing your target... that's up to you. Not announcing it will more often than not mean you'll get to the target without being intercepted and you'll just deal with defenders after your drop. There can be a lot of ground to cover in these arenas, and as you saw last night, bar dar can be very misleading (it looked like you guys were heading North to Sicily, then make a turn to the east to hit targets. You were up into the 8,9 sector at one point.)

I agree with you on hitting HQs though. I can't stand losing DAR in the CT, you really need it to find the fights. I wish HQs could be invincible in the CT.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #24 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:12:19 PM »

I remember seeing 3 really large red darbars, 2 to the west of sicily and one south. Had us really confused!!! Then we saw malta turning green...talk about REALLY confusing the situation...it got so bad down there that, after squad time, me and 2 other Knights drove GV's from A9 to A10 and took it with no opposition. Well, except for the Spit that tried to take off as the goon was landing...park an M16 parallel to the runway and slightly off in the middle, Spit turned to flame and twisted metal. PS, anyone know why the hell malta gives the FR such a HUGE hit?????

Slash27 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 15, 2003, 03:03:57 AM »

We took off and headed east. Not much to that. After you guys blitzed Malta we said what the hell and changed course. Never heard of dar bar manipulation before. I dont know what else we could have done to help the Axis find us. Maybe you guys could have an "observer" ride along and give out positions:D

Nifty · « **Reply #26 on:** May 15, 2003, 08:45:45 AM »

ahh, it's easy to do. Let's take your example of going east. Get on the top of the sector you're going through, and gradually drift into the sector above, while still going mostly east. On BAR it looks like your flight is heading to the North, while in reality you're heading East. This can really throw off an intercept because you don't go directly to the sector, you go ahead of where you think the bar is going. So to us, it looked like you were going North, so from where we were, we started heading Northwest to intercept you heading "North." In reality the buffs were heading East at this point, which we didn't realize until the BAR went to the sector down and to the right (we were expecting up, up to the right or just right.) It was about that time I said "umm, they might be going to Malta." We made best speed to Malta, and the B-17s had already dropped and were turning to make a second pass.

So what probably happened is you unintentionally did what I said. Skirted a sector line and made it look like you were going North when you were actually going East.

Slash27 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 15, 2003, 03:51:53 PM »

You guys should do the bombing next time.

Nifty · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2003, 09:54:03 AM »

us guys? there's just one of me. I just hooked up with a few other independents on Tuesday nite. My squad doesn't fly CT much during the week.