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Offline Pfunk

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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2003, 01:48:07 PM »
Oh yeah what motherboard do you have?  I would go to http://www.amdforums.com and search in there for your specific mobo and see if anyone else is encountering your problems

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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2003, 01:58:59 PM »
so you can compare here are my system and settings

Albatron KX400-8X
AMD XP 2100
2x 256DDR PC-2700 Crucial
Radeon 9700 pro w/ CAT 3.4
DX9.0a
40gig IBM 60x Deskstar HDD x2
SB!live Soundcard
CH USB 658 Flightstick
CH USB Pro Throttle
CH USB Pro Pedals

For Aces HIgh I have AA at 6X and FA at 16X
Running the game at 1600x1200  with mip mapping unchecked.

I also use Rage3D Tweak and followed this guide. ( Games look soooo good)

http://www.innercite.com/~sunking/Ultimate%20Radeon%20Tweaking%20Guide.pdf

I get 85-75FPS on average unless I'm in smoke and it goes down to 45fps.

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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2003, 02:18:55 PM »
Sun in your other post about the drivers you mentioned deleting ati files in "C:\WINDOWS\inf "   in win XP that is noty listed but ill post the rest of my info again after 6:30 Pm est
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2003, 07:49:34 PM »
Well SUN KING i followed your instructsions on how to delete and reinstall the ATI  drivers  like this :
reinstalled them
rebooted both times then set up my video perferances
install rage3Dtweak
reboot got thru the tweaker guide you listed...............
reinstalled directed X 9.0a  
now on start up i get
missing DLL error
Error "missing fahpp.dll"

so im gonna go get my bios info but what the heck is this now?


well no game will run at all (either AH or Vietcong, the 2 i play, they both lock up will loading)

system specs:
AMD 2200 XP
ASUS  A7V8X  deluxe
WD 15 gig HD
512 Corsair DDR 3200  (2.5 cl) i know but it cant be that cause.
Sound blaster live 5.1 gamer
Ati 9700 pro   (original was an OEM i pulled a few tricks and got the real deal brand new) running Catalyst 3.4
rage3d tweaker set to specks listed in (sunkings post)
last thing is a Leadtek 2000XP deluxe TV tuner card

nothing is sharing IRQ's with the Video card
heres a list of my confilicts and sharing :

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7   PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7   Direct memory access controller
   
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF   VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF   RADEON 9700 PRO
   
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21   Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
   
Memory Address 0xD8000000-0xEFFFFFFF   VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Memory Address 0xD8000000-0xEFFFFFFF   RADEON 9700 PRO - Secondary
   
IRQ 17   VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
IRQ 17   Creative SB Live! Series (WDM)
   
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF   PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF   VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF   RADEON 9700 PRO
   
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB   VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB   RADEON 9700 PRO
   
Memory Address 0xD5800000-0xD67FFFFF   VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Memory Address 0xD5800000-0xD67FFFFF   RADEON 9700 PRO - Secondary
   
HERES THE LISTED IRQ's
IRQ 0   System timer   OK
IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard   OK
IRQ 3   WinFast TV2000 XP WDM Audio Capture   OK
IRQ 6   Standard floppy disk controller   OK
IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK
IRQ 9   Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System   OK
IRQ 10   RAID Controller   OK
IRQ 12   PS/2 Compatible Mouse   OK
IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK
IRQ 14   Primary IDE Channel   OK
IRQ 15   Secondary IDE Channel   OK
IRQ 16   RADEON 9700 PRO   OK
IRQ 17   VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller   OK
IRQ 17   Creative SB Live! Series (WDM)   OK
IRQ 18   Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet   OK
IRQ 19   WinFast TV2000 XP WDM Video Capture   OK
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK
IRQ 21   Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller   OK



bios settings
AGP apature  -  128mb
AGP capability - mode 8X
AGP preformance control - enabled
AGP fast writes  - enabled
video memory    - set to UC  ( i have 2 modes 1 is UC ((i asume it means Un cashed)) or USWC)

did i miss anything?

what else could it be?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2003, 09:47:39 PM by boxboy28 »
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Offline Pfunk

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2003, 11:57:05 PM »
AGP aperature size should be half of your total system memory, so in your case AGP should be 256,  pretty sure turning off fast writes helps stability as well.

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2003, 06:56:43 AM »
Definately disable fast writes.
Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2003, 08:32:48 AM »
Well i had to do a system restore after that missing DLL sh@t
but i went into bios and disabled fast write and turn the AGP apature up to 256 , i  read some where that if your set to 128 apature anything else isnt going to effect it.

I havent had a chance to try it out! i was getting ready for work and say your posts so i went and did it, but ill check on mu lunch break!
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Offline SunKing

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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2003, 12:57:16 PM »
Boxboy28

read this thread. This is how I remove/install drivers.

http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8053

you will need to create a login for their forum, its worth it.



Error "missing fahpp.dll"


That file is part of the rage3d tweak program. Shouldn't cause your system to crash unless you deleted the wrong reg entry or file within the windows directory. Did you install the most current version of rage3d tweak? I probably reformat evey 6 months and never had a problem with that guide.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2003, 01:05:50 PM by SunKing »

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2003, 01:42:00 PM »
i believe there was only 2 REG entries in each place you said to look and i deleted all 4 then reistalled.
By the way Sun where in Win XP PRO do you delete the INF files?
its not at
C:\WINDOWS.inf

box
I just read in the other fourm how to get it to show for get it!
« Last Edit: May 22, 2003, 02:06:02 PM by boxboy28 »
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2003, 01:51:04 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by boxboy28
i believe there was only 2 REG entries in each place you said to look and i deleted all 4 then reistalled.
By the way Sun where in Win XP PRO do you delete the INF files?
its not at
C:\WINDOWS.inf

box



In this directory

C:\WINDOWS\inf

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2003, 08:56:34 PM »
Well i just did a freash reinstall of every thing. ( in under 2 hrs lol im suprized too)
every things working fine but I can get AH to run stable I open it log on get in to the main areana (finally getting 100fps in tower)   then  FREEZE  only way out is a hard reboot.  
Game just wont run whats wrong?

up till now every thing is the same
loaded in order-  (RB = reboot)

chipset drivers
RB
ATI drivers
RB
ATI control panel
RB
Sound blaster drivers
RB
DX 9.0a
RB
leadtek TV tuner card
RB
test basic stuff all works
loaded AH
RB
got to play AH .....while in tower start to reset up my prefs  FREEZE ....................
only way out is a hard reboot!
game wont run!

what the Fricken problem   AHHHHHHHHH?
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2003, 09:29:05 PM »
Sounds like a power or heat problem, no?

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2003, 09:38:24 PM »
sling ty for the thoughts but sorry that for sure isnt it!
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2003, 10:32:58 PM »
Box are you running the 3.4 cat drivers when the lockup appears?
Maybe try the 3.2 cats and see if it happens again.

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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2003, 07:32:32 AM »
Sunking 3.4  every thing  freashly installed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:confused:

after i F-ed with it all night i quit. Ill be getting off work 3 hrs early to day so im go home and try the 3.2 driver set.


other wise i tried all the other tricks i saw listing the the tech support fourm here like turning down the sound ecceleraltion and renaming video7 file.  

but f-it if i have to do another complete reinstall i got it pretty much down to a science now!
« Last Edit: May 23, 2003, 08:17:00 AM by boxboy28 »
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