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Offline TracerX

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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2003, 06:12:15 PM »
Try Saitek X45.  It has two rotary knobs that I have programmed for throttle on engines one and two.  It is very easy, and only costs around $80.  I used to fly P38 manipulating the throttle, but I found that it flies almost the same without any throttle manipulation, including hammerheads, so I don't use them anymore.  Only hard thing about the X45 is getting used to the rudder.  I still don't feel like I have the best control, so I am looking at getting CH Pro Foot pedals.

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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2003, 03:08:49 PM »
I've got a CH Pro Throttle that I have programmed for simple dual-throttle control.  The set-up doesn't allow completely independent control, but it works for what I want it to do when flying a dual-engine plane.

The Pro Throttle has a thumb-manipulable two-axis mini-stick (similar to Cougar's).  Using CH Control Manager 2.0 (excellent, by the way), I programmed two "virtual" throttles, controlled by the main throttle and the X axis (left and right) on the mini-stick.  CH Manager 2.0 is very flexible, allowing you to assign the controllers' physical axes to arbitrary axes of any number of virtual devices, all of which AH recognizes.  I think I assigned the virtual throttle axes to the X and Y axes of a controller that doesn't actually exist (i.e., "CH Control Manager Device 2"), while I assigned the other axes of my controlers (Fighterstick and Pro Pedals, in addition to Pro Throttle) to the axes of a second, virtual device (i.e., "CH Control Manger Device 1").  

The way it works is that when the mini-stick is centered, both "virtual" throttles are set to the value of the physical throttle.  As the mini-stick is deflected left or right, the left or right virtual throttle is decreased linearly from the value of the physical throttle.  Thus, for example, when the physical throttle is full open and the mini-stick is 50% deflected to the right, the left "virtual" throttle will be full open and the right "virtual" throttle will be 50% open.  The nice thing about this set-up is that it is entirely intuitive to use.  If you want the dual engines to induce yaw to the right, move the mini-stick to the right.  If you want to induce yaw to the left, move the mini-stick left.  

After programming CH Manager 2, all that is required is to map my "virtual" throttle axes to AH's throttle 1 and throttle 2.  Very clean and easy.

- JNOV

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2003, 05:39:40 PM »
LoneStar can you post your CH map file for this configuration. Id like to try it. Did you do anything different in the AH mapping ?

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2003, 09:34:23 PM »
I put a zip file with the map, associated script file, and a JPEG key map here.

I hope it's helpful (or at least interesting) :)

- JNOV

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2003, 05:21:01 PM »
LoneStar thanks for the files. but.... I'm completely lost with this CH Manager. I'm gonna post my map file which is entirely basic because I only map keys in AH Stick Mapper and I am good to go.

If you have the time could you add to my map the ability to do this.....

" If you want the dual engines to induce yaw to the right, move the mini-stick to the right. If you want to induce yaw to the left, move the mini-stick left. "


http://www.innercite.com/~sunking/sunkingmap.zip


PS.  Do I need to map anythign special in AH to get this working correctly other than the throttle to axis z on the Pro Throttle?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2003, 05:25:45 PM by SunKing »

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2003, 05:56:28 PM »
I'll modify your files so that it works as I described.  When I post a link, I'll give details on how to set it up in AH.

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2003, 09:40:56 PM »
SunKing:

Check here.  I included a readme that should help you set it up.  Please let me know if it doesn't work or if you have some problems with it.  Thanks!

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2003, 11:04:21 PM »
Hi thanks for the map.. Its jsut not working for me. After I mapped the throttles in AH stick mapper any duel engine fighter will pull to the right when trying to take off as if one engine is running higher than the other. Calibrated and still happened.

When I pull the mini stick back (left) i can see the rpm drop to 1/4 , not all the way as if you would pull back on the throttle z axis. Any ideas?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2003, 11:07:22 PM by SunKing »