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Offline Martlet

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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2003, 05:01:11 PM »
I'd like to see:

White history month.
Miss White America
White Entertainment Television
NAAWP
United White Folk College Fund
etc etc.

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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2003, 05:10:09 PM »
turn on the tv martlet.. its pretty much all white people's programming. ..also, pretty much every other month is white history month..we celebrate achievments and discovery  by white folks all the time, you only notice it when its a black achievment that is mentioned.  as for the NAAWP..hmm how about the Republican Party? (said only partially in jest).. then there's the United White Folk College Fund. if you knew how many people were denied admission to colleges based on their race and inherent racism in colleges, you might be (or should be) shocked.

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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2003, 05:50:09 PM »
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turn on the tv martlet.. its pretty much all white people's programming. ..also, pretty much every other month is white history month..we celebrate achievments and discovery  by white folks all the time, you only notice it when its a black achievment that is mentioned.  as for the NAAWP..hmm how about the Republican Party? (said only partially in jest).. then there's the United White Folk College Fund. if you knew how many people were denied admission to colleges based on their race and inherent racism in colleges, you might be (or should be) shocked.


white people's programming?  Like what?

We celebrate achievements of PEOPLE, what difference does it make what color they are?  How does that mean I don't deserve a white history month?

Could you show me some examples of racism in college admission, or are you just going to throw that out there?  Last I knew, you didn't have to declare race on a college, or any other, application.

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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2003, 05:56:25 PM »
I work in an invironment that his saturated with PhDs in Physics, Math and Chemistry (and Chem E)... I've never seen an African American PhD in any of these fields at my company.  I've seen a few Black men/women in those areas, but all from Africa.

Maybe its racism... but then the PhDs where I'm at are made of a very equal mix of Russian, Korean, Taiwanese, German, Irish, Indian, Romanian, Canadian (LOL!)  and... well... I don't know how many others.  Just no African Americans at all.

Of a freshman class with 200 engineering students in it (back in 1990), not a single one was black.

Your mileage may vary as far as experience goes... but mine indicates that engineering is not a field that African Americans gravitate towards.  Feel free to speculate amongst yourselves as to why that might be... I have no idea myself.

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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2003, 06:02:02 PM »
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I work in an invironment that his saturated with PhDs in Physics, Math and Chemistry (and Chem E)... I've never seen an African American PhD in any of these fields at my company.  I've seen a few Black men/women in those areas, but all from Africa.

Maybe its racism... but then the PhDs where I'm at are made of a very equal mix of Russian, Korean, Taiwanese, German, Irish, Indian, Romanian, Canadian (LOL!)  and... well... I don't know how many others.  Just no African Americans at all.

Of a freshman class with 200 engineering students in it (back in 1990), not a single one was black.

Your mileage may vary as far as experience goes... but mine indicates that engineering is not a field that African Americans gravitate towards.  Feel free to speculate amongst yourselves as to why that might be... I have no idea myself.

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2003, 06:04:51 PM »
How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2003, 06:11:35 PM »
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How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.


I just want one body part to be black....you know....the "myth" thing.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2003, 06:13:27 PM »
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How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.


Why would I want to be black?  Or latin?  Or female?  Or anything but what I am now?

If someone has a problem with the cards they were dealt, then that hardly makes it my problem.

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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2003, 06:15:29 PM »
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How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.


I think I'd rather be Australian than black... or... maybe Canadian. :D
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2003, 06:20:59 PM »
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I'd like to see:

White history month.
Miss White America
White Entertainment Television
NAAWP
United White Folk College Fund
etc etc.


RIGHT ON BRO.

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2003, 06:41:02 PM »
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How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.


I'd like to be black from the waist down.

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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2003, 06:45:10 PM »
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How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.



personally I wouldn't want to be anything other than I am (ok maybe born into a little more money :D ).

I do find a lot of white kids today trying to 'act black' ( or at least whatever the current stereo type of 'acting black' is.  the black men and women I've known over the years are as varied in how they act, moral character, etc as whites I've know)  I find it sad.  

not that they are trying to be black specifically, but that they can't seem to be proud to be white.  pride in your heritage is considered racism if you're white.  Its no wonder so many kids are ashamed of their race, they are being told that they are the cause of all societies problem from the time they first go to school.  they are told they are the reason that their black friends families have no money (even when their families have no money either)

I've also met blacks who where ashamed of their race, or try to avoid doing anything that would be considered stereotypically black. this is equally disturbing to me.  I hate to think what a personal hell a person goes through to be ashamed or deny a part of who they are.

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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2003, 06:47:20 PM »
Historically highly educated blacks tend to be medical doctors, lawyers, teachers and government officials.

My biggest concern with black and education besides the idiotic pushing of afrocentricism is the "sell out" factor - where poorer blacks who seek education and sucess are often castigated by their peer as sell outs. I have seen this crap first hand with one of my high school friends and it pisses me off to no end.

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2003, 06:53:14 PM »
LOL, white people whining about Black History Month?  I think I've seen it all, now.

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2003, 07:53:15 PM »
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How many white men on this board would rather be black? Be honest now.



MTV sure makes it appealing these days doesn't it?

Personally I think that too much is made about African-American everything.

I find it repulsive that any race would shout "We deserve to be considered equal as others but we need Affirmative Action and other special considerations."  Seems to whisper double standard to me.

I'm also amazed that someone Black can call someone else Black a n*gger [edit: I see this word is verboten] and yet if anyone else says it then it's considered racists.  Seems to say double standard to me.

As Martlet said...how about White History Month, White Miss American, hell White anything...it's then considered racists.  Seems to scream double standard to me.

Yet it is insisted that everyone is equal.

I applaud Blacks for taking responsibility for their destiny while culturally it's not encouraged.  It's an easy excuse to hold that mantra "The White man is holding me down" close to heart and say that they deserve this and that while not working for it or sacrificing for it.  The same could be said for a lot of people (of all races) but Blacks have consistently waved the race card far too often.  I think Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton are the men who cried wolf once too often.

Do I think that certain people are out and out racists and take every oppurtunity to hurt other people of other races...yes I do, but there are these people from ALL races.  I also feel that someone who would do that is morally bankrupt and probably deserves to be shot, but I also feel that Jackson and Sharpton should also be considered villians toward Blacks.

It seems that they trivialize every occasion something happens to a Black person and desensitize us to the very real occurances of racism.  The heirs to Martin Luther King they are not.

Black men and women are nothing more than men and women.  I personally do not feel that they deserve as much consideration as they have been.  It is politically correct to feel sympathetic to Blacks like it's a black eye (no pun intended) on our history so we act all nice-nice to make up for it.

I am not politically correct.  I simply WILL NOT kowtow to a condescending, political policy to anyone of any race.  "...that all men are created equal..." seems to be a particularly poignant quote right now.  Why should we show favoritism to any race that claims all they want is equality.

In closing, I want to ask a question...How can someone be considered equal while so many concensions are made toward them?
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