why do you hate the Lagg7 ?

[SlapShot]

Wineman ...

I love base defense ... so La-7 and Spit will be used the most depending upon the situation. When I fly on squad nights its usually Navy planes or an occasional P-38, and the 110.

You didn't look back far enuff ... Here is what I did in Tour 32. Hardly a "few token runs in a few other planes".

.................. Kills in ...Kills of

La-7...............305 .....19
Panzer IV H ....71 .....46
F6F-5 ..............34 .....21
P-51D .............29 .....39
Ostwind ..........28 .....31
Ship Gunner ....23 .......0
F4U-1D ............20 .....12
N1K2 ...............15 .....15
Spitfire Mk IX ...14 .....25
M-16 ................11 .......7
P-47-D30 .........10 .....11
Bf 110G-2 ..........7 .....12

In Tour 31 my number 1 killer was the FM2. Hardly a "monster" ...

197 kills in ...... 104 deaths in (almost a 2 to 1 K/D ratio)

So as far as I am concerned, I have done my time in the EW planes and others, and can be very deadly in them. I choose to fly the La-7, cause I like the plane, it pisses people off, and mostly I can almost hear the other pilot on the merge saying "oh crap" this guy is not your typical La-7 pilot.

When I go goon huntin' I am, at the max, 20 ft off the deck, and there is nothing faster that can get me to the goon and get the job done. When the goon dies, you can see the wind come right out of their sails and their aggressivness becomes more passive, which will lead to death.

My changing of the La-7 to the 190 in the scenario was not neccesarily describing a 190 vs an La-7. That is what the 190 CAN DO against any other plane EXCEPT the La-7 and its a constant occurence from my observations.

If you fly the La-7 low and slow or get into a scissors, you will die also. Every plane has its weaknesses, ya just gotta know what they are.

You have described exactly what every 190 pilot NEEDS to do when they encounter an La-7. Its the 190 pilot who doesn't do as you described, that cries the most when the La-7 kills him, because if the 190 pilot made the same mistake against ANY other plane, they would be able to RUN and chuckle. Now, in most cases, when the La-7 turns and start to gain, its the inevitable 190 "stick-stir" as the last resort. I love when a guy does that ... keep burning the E that you might have had.

Wineman .. you comments weren't taken personally and I am not trying to start an argument here ... I am just sick and tired of people pissin' and moano' about this plane, when it barely keeps a 1 K/D ratio for a whole tour. Its not invincible, its not uber, its the perception that it is that causes of all the whining. With that perception, the other pilot has usually already lost the fight, so they cry foul and feel the need to whine.

The 190 and 109 use to frustrate the hell out of me. Not anymore. I learned how to avoid them (with ease) and learned what their weaknesses are, and when they make the mistake and show thier "underbelly", they die. I didn't come running to the BBS and whine that they keep killing me or they run so fast, so they must be uber and thus need to be perked.



Oh .. my favorite wine ... Joseph Phelps - Insignia

[Suave]

Shane's a scumbag, but at least he's a scumbag that fights, which sets him apart from 89% of the players in the MA .

[WineMan]

Originally posted by SlapShot
In Tour 31 my number 1 killer was the FM2. Hardly a "monster" ...

197 kills in ...... 104 deaths in (almost a 2 to 1 K/D ratio)

Well, I must not have gone back far enough (not checking now), but if you had an FM2 as your number 1 plane in a tour, that is very admirable.

Originally posted by SlapShot



and mostly I can almost hear the other pilot on the merge saying "oh crap" this guy is not your typical La-7 pilot.



... I am just sick and tired of people pissin' and moano' about this plane, when it barely keeps a 1 K/D ratio for a whole tour. Its not invincible, its not uber, its the perception that it is that causes of all the whining.

I have to disagree in the sense that I think the only reason it has near a 1 K/D ratio is because so many newbies fly it that haven't really learned how yet, and they get picked off by people like me who target La7s first whenever they see one.  "Not your typical La7 pilot" is when they ARE so dangerous, because I think the plane really is better than most if not all the other no perk rides.  

Originally posted by SlapShot
If you fly the La-7 low and slow or get into a scissors, you will die also. Every plane has its weaknesses, ya just gotta know what they are.

That is true, and that is what I count on....

Originally posted by SlapShot
Its the 190 pilot who doesn't do as you described, that cries the most when the La-7 kills him, because if the 190 pilot made the same mistake against ANY other plane, they would be able to RUN and chuckle.

"

LOL - I do have to say, I don't ever "cry" when I get killed by an La7, except if the pilot's name is something like 436438!!

[SlapShot]

"LOL - I do have to say, I don't ever "cry" when I get killed by an La7, except if the pilot's name is something like 436438!!

LOL ... rgr that !!!

"I have to disagree in the sense that I think the only reason it has near a 1 K/D ratio is because so many newbies fly it that haven't really learned how yet, and they get picked off by people like me who target La7s first whenever they see one."

Ya kinda painted yourself into a corner on this one. If this is true, then why is there such whining and moaning. La-7s should be easy pickins as would any plane, if flown by a beginner. Get my logic ? Some people fly around in planes that allow them to BnZ with impunity and its the La-7 that ruins their day ... well ... sorry about that !!!

"Not your typical La7 pilot" is when they ARE so dangerous, because I think the plane really is better than most if not all the other no perk rides.

Oh well ... Lifes a squeak and then ya die ... Just kidding ... I get your point, but there are few that fill that bill, so the chances of getting your day ruined by an La-7 are very slim.

[joeblogs]

After all its atomic powered.  Flies forever without gas.

-Blogs

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by joeblogs
After all its atomic powered.  Flies forever without gas.

-Blogs

Range 395 miles (636 km)

Hardly atomic but more than enough to fly many sectors in the MA when fully loaded. Glide/Slope is less than desirable when empty.

[Dead Man Flying]

The La-7 is God's gift to the Spit V.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
The La-7 is God's gift to the Spit V.

-- Todd/Leviathn

LOL

Lev ... I thought it was the N1K ?  

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Lev ... I thought it was the N1K ?  

God loves His children!  

-- Todd/Leviathn

[OIO]

smells of elderberries with whipped dweeb on top.

[Pongo]

When I flew the La7 alot I would always come across spit and Pony and other pilots that would instantly scissor to defeat an La7. Man that cost alot of them thier lives. But then there was Levy.

[Puke]

Someone said he hates runners and so that's why he flies the LA7?  That strikes me as being a catch-22 because the LA7s are the most capable runners out there.

I never run into Shane except for one day.  We had three fights, me in my P-51B and him in his LA7.  I believe the first one he beat me fair and square, though I do believe I got a ping or two in on him but four-50's just don't cut the mustard in this game.  The 2nd fight was just him and me until a country-mate of his snuck in on the fight and zapped me without ever seeing him/her.  3rd fight I decide to try to take the LA7 low and slow and hopefully take advantage of what I hear about the LA7's poor low speed handling.  I chase him while he's "extending" and then he reverses to fight.  We go at it and I get the fight low and slow and in a very slow but tight turn I decide to reverse hoping he'd lose control and I near lost control myself...then he slams into the ground.  But it wasn't that he made any mistakes and lost, it was his frame rate or something he claims.  I believe I saved this on film.

Found the film.  I've never heard of lag making your own aircraft stall when trying to reverse.  And dang, he's fast on the reply in the buffer ready for an explanation...must be a macro.

[SlapShot]

"Someone said he hates runners and so that's why he flies the LA7? That strikes me as being a catch-22 because the LA7s are the most capable runners out there.

But the part you didn't "catch" is that I don't run. I use its abilties to "catch". I have no incentive to run. I DONT CARE if I die. I like to RTB as much as the next guy, but I don't lose any sleep if I don't ... its the fight that I enjoy, and if I die, aw shucks, hopefully I learn something from the fight and use it for the next.

I might extend to recover (I don't consider that running), because I want to continue to fight on my terms. I usually go no futher then 1k separation before I reverse, but I will be back.

Hey .. if we run into each other (I am a Knight), you just might dust me off ... such is life ... You'll get a big <> and I will get over it instantly, but I promise you, you will be in for a fight.

[Tuborg]

All you jokels and cowboys from the midwest or whatever can scream all that you want, but it is still kinda embarrassing that the No.1 sim in the US has a top 5 list that says:
1. Spit
2. P-51 (at least some proud americans !)
3. N1K2
4. La-7
5. Typhoon

IF AH player where a true ww2 warbirds lover comunity and somehow reflecting the most populare fightermaschines from ww2  of all time, it would probably look like this:

1. P-51
2. Spit
3. ME-109
4. P-47
5. P-38/FW-190/Zero

AH may not be the most realistic simulatiuon when it comes to ww2 enviroment, but when it comes to simulate a piece of the real world, it shurly is outstanding. Take a good look around you, next time you sit together with 500 strangers on a boat or something. You could problably share a beer or two with 5% of them, but the rest of them are complete stunninghunks!

So, i'll too grab a N1K2/La7 once or twice, but only if i am completly drunk and have a strange desire of beeing a big time stunninghunk....  

[Suave]

I notice there are no japanese planes on your second list .