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Offline gofaster

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« on: May 22, 2003, 12:43:36 PM »
We don't have a homeless problem.  We just have too many cops. :p

Police, dressed as homeless, catch drivers running red lights


Associated Press, May 22, 2003 - 05:21 AM

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KISSIMMEE, Fla.
Homeless advocates are outraged by an operation where undercover police officers dressed as vagrants, observed drivers running red lights or committing other traffic violations, then radioed ahead to other officers who stopped those cars and wrote tickets.

"Operation Vagrant," a sting operation involving the Florida Highway Patrol, Kissimmee police and the Osceola County Sheriff's Office, nabbed 171 drivers -- most of whom ran red lights, a violation that carries an $83 fine.

Undercover deputies stood along streets and gave the indication they were vagrants by pushing shopping carts and wearing fake teeth and tattered clothing. They also carried small cardboard signs, which read, "Sheriff's traffic sting in progress. Buckle up."

"It's kind of appalling," said Marilyn Gordon, executive director of the Homeless Services Network of Central Florida. "I wonder if it will be a consciousness-raising exercise for the law-enforcement officers."

Robert H. Brown, president and chief executive officer of the Coalition for the Homeless of Central Florida, said the officers were being silly.

"It's ironic that they would use a disguise of someone that people think of as visually offensive," Brown said. "I just think it shows that the community's aware of the homeless problem. I wish they would solve it, rather than masquerading."

Osceola sheriff's bureau Chief Jerry Geier said the sting was designed to raise awareness about dangerous intersections.

Nearly 25,000 drivers were ticketed for running red lights in Florida in 2001, and 107 deaths that year were attributed to drivers disregarding traffic signals. Plus, police nationwide started a new initiative this week to call attention to dangers of riding in a vehicle without using a seat belt.

"Our ultimate goal is to make an impact," Geier said. "The last thing we're trying to do is disrespect anybody."

State Rep. Irv Slosberg, D-Boca Raton, an advocate of stronger seat-belt and other traffic-safety laws, applauded the sting operation. His daughter, Dori, 14, was killed in a 1996 traffic accident in which she did not wear a seat belt.

"I admire them for being creative," Slosberg said.

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2003, 12:46:35 PM »
should dress as pushers

then they could sting em they are dealing or wheeling :)
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2003, 12:55:40 PM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
should dress as pushers

then they could sting em they are dealing or wheeling :)


Good point!

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2003, 12:58:47 PM »
"I just think it shows that the community's aware of the homeless problem. I wish they would solve it, rather than masquerading."

Since when is it the job of law enforcement to "solve" the homeless problem?

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2003, 01:04:44 PM »
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Originally posted by gofaster
 "I wish they would solve it, rather than masquerading."



The police should solve the homeless problem.  Riiight.

As if they can really fix it.  Take 'em and dump 'em in someone else's town.  Problem solved...

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2003, 01:09:04 PM »
Just 1 more example of using Gestapo tactics by the man. Next they will kick in your door to make sure you are not running with scissors and do a quick sweep of the house while they are there. Remember, it's all for your safety! You don't have anything against safety do you? What have you got to hide? Well then you won't mind us looking, will you?:eek:
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2003, 01:23:32 PM »
How did you go from standing on a street corner to kicking in your front door? :rolleyes:

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2003, 01:45:50 PM »
Liked that did ya?:D
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2003, 11:53:16 PM »
BWAHAHAHAA love the sting operation!!!!


RPM, you really have a problem with being paranoid dontcha? Better look under the coffee table for that microphone....... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2003, 12:46:38 AM »
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BWAHAHAHAA love the sting operation!!!!


RPM, you really have a problem with being paranoid dontcha?  



Welll.....he is a Maverick's fan after all.  Havent you heard that the NBA and David Stern are out to get them?

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2003, 08:17:07 AM »
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"I just think it shows that the community's aware of the homeless problem. I wish they would solve it, rather than masquerading."


Having been a police officer in Florida for over 7 years, this is my take on it...

First of all, being homeless is not a crime... Therefore solving this problem has absolutely NOTHING to do with the police. The moron that made this comment in the article is obviously confused. He needs to point the finger at himself as a "concerned citizen" for this problem not being solved.

I mean what does he expect the police to do about it? Violate their rights by rounding up all the homeless and placing them in a camp?

People broke the law by running a red light and got caught by a cop dressed as a hobo. So what? If you don't want a ticket, don't run red lights...  Geez...

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2003, 08:25:43 AM »
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Just 1 more example of using Gestapo tactics by the man. Next they will kick in your door to make sure you are not running with scissors and do a quick sweep of the house while they are there. Remember, it's all for your safety! You don't have anything against safety do you? What have you got to hide? Well then you won't mind us looking, will you?:eek:


Yeah, let's just get rid of all the traffic laws and let the motorists have at it.

Tell that to someone who's had a cop knock on their door to tell them a member of their family was killed by some moron who ran a red light because he was in a hurry to get to work.

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2003, 09:02:00 AM »
I've driven the stretch of one of the roads they're patrolling - Irlo Bronson Highway, a main road leading to/from the Disney theme parks and to/from the hotels, restaurants, stores, and second-tier amusements.  I'm guessing 90% of the people on that road have never driven that road before and aren't really sure where they are going.  It is typical to see a car in the far left lane suddenly turn right across 2 lanes of traffic to get to a hotel or restaurant on the other side.  You really have to maintain your SA on that road.

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2003, 09:22:45 AM »
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If you don't want a ticket, don't run red lights...  Geez...


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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2003, 10:40:05 AM »
IMO it's a brilliant tactic.  disguise yourself as a part of the population that most find invisible.