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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2003, 06:42:15 PM »
sirloin jhust so that you know that was the basic err "demand" (for lack of a better term) of the community...

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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2003, 07:15:18 PM »
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Why couldnt they just go back to the old format (Win the war the terrain auto rotates).

But also do a manual terrain reset on Fri like now.

That way you win the war the map rotates, but no map will be up for longer than a week.


Hmmm... and what happens when a map is reset on Thursday night? Should everyone just pack up and go home? It will be reset on Friday anyway.

Personally, I really don't see the problem (provided Trinity is made more playable :)). I see it to be much like the vaunted "La7 Whine"..... "this map (, plane, vehicle, etc..) is unbeatable...get rid of it!!!".
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2003, 08:02:03 PM »
Fights for their own sake?

Or Resets for their own sake?

The whole bloody thing is a hamster wheel, or hasn't anyone sat down and really thought about it?

What happens when you win a war? The game resets and the war starts all over again. Sounds like a hamster wheel indeed.

"And round and round went that big ******* wheel and in and out went that big ***** of steel, and in and out until she cried, "enough, enough, I'm sat-at-tis-fied!"

(So who can name the band and the song for THAT one?" :D)
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2003, 08:14:22 PM »
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Fights for their own sake?

Or Resets for their own sake?

The whole bloody thing is a hamster wheel, or hasn't anyone sat down and really thought about it?



Toad...

Of course a few of us have. The point is that it is all pointless :). It isn't about winning fights or wars. It isn't about being the best (learned this when HT went from being my whipping boy to being my nemisis :D). It is about having fun. If you aren't having fun....then you are doing it wrong and should be doing something else :D.

My old motto from AW days applies..."if it ain't fun...don't do it" :).
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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2003, 10:38:40 PM »
beer aint fun no more...should i stop drinking???


and sqwigly...the logic behind it was that everytime trinity rolled around there was mass whining on the board (do a quick search on trinity...you'll see what i mean...it was getting more occurant than the perk the la7 threads)

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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2003, 10:39:43 PM »
oh and i do beleive i was the only one tto profecise the "whats the point in taking bases anymore" thing...

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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2003, 11:02:37 PM »
Exactly so, NB, exactly so.

The only possible point on this whole pointless hamster wheel ride is to have fun. IMO, those that try to make it more than that are doomed to disappointment.

It's just plain old fun. Well said.

Now, stand by, and we'll see who still doesnt' get it.


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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2003, 02:51:53 AM »
You need to pull up after you divebomb too.
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2003, 03:10:45 AM »
Let's put it this way.

 Not everyone is satisfied with a certain map.

 With the exception of "Trinity", which has an exceptionally long running time, most maps rotate in about two days. When it's short, even a few hours.

 With the new 1-week rotation feature, now, everybody gets to see their most hated map for one whole week.

 Ofcourse, in reverse logic, everybody would also see their favorite map for one week, too.

 ...

 So, simply put,

 Would the fun of your favorite map for one week, overweigh the dismay of seeing your most hated map for one week?

 
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 For me, seeing my most hated map for one whole week, is worse than seeing any of my favorite maps for one week.

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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2003, 04:39:02 AM »
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Originally posted by Mr. Toad
Fights for their own sake?

Or Resets for their own sake?

The whole bloody thing is a hamster wheel, or hasn't anyone sat down and really thought about it?

What happens when you win a war? The game resets and the war starts all over again. Sounds like a hamster wheel indeed.

"And round and round went that big ******* wheel and in and out went that big ***** of steel, and in and out until she cried, "enough, enough, I'm sat-at-tis-fied!"

(So who can name the band and the song for THAT one?" :D)


ROFL!!!! My dad taught us that song in the 50s/60s. :) Sung to a Methodist hymn tune of all things! I'll finish it off for you...

Now we come to the tragic bit,
There was no way of stopping it,
She was split from ar*e to t*t
And the whole bloody thing was covered in s**t...


Hehe, thanks for the memory. :D
As for who wrote it, I'm guessing Dad learned it in the RAF during WW2.

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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2003, 05:16:08 AM »
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oh and i do beleive i was the only one tto profecise the "whats the point in taking bases anymore" thing...



Hardly...


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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2003, 08:44:45 AM »
Beet1e, you win the see-gar!

Recorded here in the '60's by Doug Clark and the Hotnuts. Yeah, they've got a web page now, even!  ;)
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2003, 09:07:07 AM »
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So, simply put,

 Would the fun of your favorite map for one week, overweigh the dismay of seeing your most hated map for one week?

 
 ...

 For me, seeing my most hated map for one whole week, is worse than seeing any of my favorite maps for one week.


....and in addition, you know you will have to wait 5 weeks to see the one you like again. Guess what, as new maps come on line...the wait will be even longer. Seems this might be a "becareful what you wish for..." kind of deal for the folks that screamed for a forced map rotation. :)
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2003, 09:21:45 AM »
'winning the war" has allways been pointless... it is no more or less so now than before.  

A lot of us like the smaller maps and with any reset of maps other than on an equal length of time.. the small maps will not get played much.

12 hours work?   who in their right mind plays for 12 hours straight with the goal of reseting the map and winning that hawiian vacation?   Making you and your whole goofy squad quit would be for your health... get some sun.

Here is how resets work... the country with the most numbers wins... there... I've let the cat out of the bag..  See... all that "work" you do?  It all depends on numbers... if your country has the numbers they have the excess players to steamroller fields... the steamrollers are made up of strat weinies, timid newbies and opportunists that are afraid to fight on anything like even terms.  

There may be a good fight here or there but the steamroller players will percieve that it needs their special help and screw the fight all up followed by a daisy chain round of back slapping "atta boys".

The game is less fun with the new steamroller element.
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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2003, 09:42:42 AM »
Well, lazs2.. I suppose the team with the numbers can always ground the excess pilots from flying, surely the in-tower poker games will keep them occupied, and it's obvious that HTC can code out the excess players and teamwork.

The strat system was surely placed to annoy the furballers and shouldn't be used under any circumstances, and the furball island in the DA is just there for looks - don't use that either.
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