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Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2001, 08:00:00 AM »

Laz, in Warbirds you get medals. Its not limited to box games (the reward system).

lazs1 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2001, 08:12:00 AM »

yeah rip... had a toejamload of em. I'll dig em out and you can have em. So... Ok... let's give out "medals" in AH and get rid of the idiotic perk system. If you melt down 50 medals you could buy 1 day free online time. How's that?
lazs

Ripsnort · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2001, 08:19:00 AM »

I detect some sarcasm to the perk planes Laz?

Perks are still very rare. I personally don't see um as a problem.

I don't think HTC wants to do a RPS since they like to lead with new, creative alternatives.

I would support any early war plane set, but I like all aircraft in that era...I enjoy going up in a Hurri as much as I do a 262.

Currently, the Main is the busiest of the arenas they have, doing anything drastic in their aka RPS, could disrupt their income. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind. Sure, there is room for improvement, gentle, sutle improvement...but I would think that they'd be very cautious on their approach to new 'game play' in such a popular arena.

Glasses · « **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2001, 08:41:00 AM »

True Wilbus the Ta152 is one of the most capable LW prop driven aircraft in AH. But ou need to be gentle and know its full range limits. Yes,it has a big arse wing ,yes it can carry a load of fuel,and doesn't climb that well...If you know how to properly load the plane you'll out climb Doras and almost climb at the same rate of a G10 and have fuel to boot to stay an hour up get some kill and RTB safely.

In an engagement with an F6F on the deck taking a dve doing Jabo he ditched his bombs and rocks and tried to hard tun with me I using the turning ability of the Ta could maneuver and maintain on his 6, he later asked me how I did it. Amazing a LW plane that turns even with spits and has a nice accel ,good to know.

Again the Ta152 is very capable and has quite a punch you just need to know your aircraft. Too bad it's perked since this is one I feel most comfortable in.

SKurj · « **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2001, 02:02:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs1:
Get all the other planes up on an even footintg first and then worry about how often the spoiler perk rides are used.

Every perk ride seen is a spoiled fight.
lazs

Hmmm, so how ya gonna even the disparity between the F4U-1/D/C and the HurriIIc/d?
Or P47 vs A6m?
190D9 vs SpitV?

SKurj

funkedup · « **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2001, 02:04:00 PM »

lazs1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2001, 09:56:00 AM »

yep... a modified RPS or an "area" arena would work just fine. We would actually see more variety most of the time. We certainly would see more parity and, except for the "hide from each other" late war arena... Much more action. I can think of a half dozen early war planes that would all be used a lot if they had their own "area" within the arena... Bet a lot more variety would ensue in the mid war area also... As for the late war area.... who cares?
lazs

Nifty · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2001, 12:37:00 PM »

Gimme BoB planes and a place to fly 'em without having a Tempest or Me262 coming down on me. Gimme P40's, F4Fs and A6M2's and a place to fly 'em without F4U-4's and N1K2's flying around.

Unfortunately lazs, the majority don't want this. In fact you and I prefer different things. You want it based on year, I want it based on theater with sides.

Can't please everyone.

SKurj · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2001, 01:50:00 PM »

RPS does nothing to reduce the disparity between the F4U and the Hurri2, no matter which way you look at it, the F4u should win the fight (pilots being equal) everytime. Oh Oh and an RPS even based on year would still put these 2 aircraft against each other.
Same applies to the P47 v a6m

SKurj

CavemanJ · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2001, 02:48:00 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001:
you don't really "spend" your perk points on a plane, it's a damage deposit, you bring the plane back , you get your deposit back, so if your a good pilot it won't cost anything

so where's the return of my deposts for 2 262s I lost, undamaged, to discoes? One I was dumped my isp, the second, about 10minutes later, was just a "host connection lost" box came up. Restarted AH and was right back in the game. That one was the real steamer, losing 100points because the game server decided it dinnae like me for a second.

Joc · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2001, 05:28:00 PM »

Id like to see more early war aircraft,more bombers,and ditch the bloody jets.

Steven · « **Reply #26 on:** October 16, 2001, 08:33:00 PM »

Early War! Here here!!!!

I too would like to see theater of operations or regions and time-frame limitation.

As for Hurris and Corsairs, I have no clue when they appeared or which models you talk about. In an F4U-1, I am very leary of Hurri's.

To me, what makes something feel more like WW2 are the planesets and not necessarily how the missions occur. Flying an F6F and battling FW190s and LA7s and shooting down B17s just doesn't give me that feel.

Wilbus · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2001, 01:39:00 AM »

Lost a 100 perk s in the Me262 due to host connection lost, I wasn't very happy, had to scream out that I was at war with the host and such but wasn't really angry, it's 100 perks, you'll get it back.

Perk planes are here to stay, it's a GREAT way to let us fly late war planes and still limmit them, if I see a perk plane in the arena it doesn't spoil a fight for me, it usually makes it more fun.

LOVE My Ta152

Eaglecz · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2001, 03:21:00 AM »

hehe i noticed same Zygothe..
8 of 10 fighters whitch i killed in tempest try to kill me by Hoing....
When i last time die in tempset it was because fast LA7 kamikadzed me, without hit.. he only crash into me and he was happy that somebody else lost perks..
If those people will still think like 13 years old children , then perkplanes will be still very Rare.

But if i flew B26 and 262 comeing from my 6 oc very fast, and he die in flames by my turent that i start to think if 262 is realy overperked or not...

I killed 2x me262 in B26 and damaged 1, they got me 1 times

Tempest is over rated but F4U4 shoulnt cost less. F4U4 have same speed better or same turn rate i bet better, 6x super .50cal is also strong .
Ta152 try 15 perks for beggin
262 200 seems to be good for me

Kodiak2 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 17, 2001, 03:40:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Tac:
I agree. no perk plane should cost more than 80 perks.

The arado should cost 2/3rds of what the 262 costs.

Perk the 51D, La7, n1k? Perhaps, 3 or 4 perks?. Ta152 unperk it, its a POS below 20k and above it its got to be flown like a chicken unless you wanna lose the perks. The spit IX MAY need to be perked.. 1 or 2 perks, not because of performance, but because of overuse.

I don't know about you Tac, but the arado to me is just about wortless especially right now. Bombing right now is just about worthless cuz you could make a run and have the dam field resupplied by a train or trucks before you turn around for a second pass. This is not to mention that the most it will carry is 3 500kg bombs which add up to about 3300lbs---fine if you want to take out 1 hangar. Not sure if a town has more than 3 ack but why risk it when you can have something than can at least fight back? Arado is cool and I praise AH for bringing it in but strategically it's all just "fluff". Would have been much happier seeing a B29 added instead.