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Offline swoopy

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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2003, 06:24:41 AM »
Mansell did a few races for ford in BTCC(British Touring Car Championship). Drove great, at the race a donnington park came from the middle of the pack to the front in bad weather (some amazing outbraking in the wet:eek: ). only lost first place due to the engine stalling sending him into the tyres.
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2003, 08:03:47 AM »
Mansell had a nasty crash in the BTCC, i think it was at bridge on the silverstone circuit (actually hitting the bridge) that left him concussed for the race.

Mansell ruled, and i think the current cars look nicer than the old ones... its amazing how much they change in a short time.

Mansell had a dramatic tyre blowout in australia which put paid to his world title dreams that year (forget the year)
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2003, 08:28:29 AM »
I have followed F1 since 85

The cars now are safer, faster but i think its was better racing 10-15 years ago.

It was more about quality of drivers back then, now its to much tech and the outcome is usually given unless its starts to rain or a car breaks.

IMO the cars should be more equal in performance so that drivers and pitcrews decide who wins. Michael is not that superior to other drivers, he just has ALOT better car and more money in his team then the rest.

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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2003, 09:15:16 AM »
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I dont like the way the camera angles are set during Indycar races or at most US sanctioned races. They follow the cars too much and zoom in too much as the cars travel down the straights. Makes them appear like they are going slow. Fix the zoom and angle them in the corners and at the start end of the staights. No zoom then one can get a good idea of just how fast or how much distance  these cars actually go.


Yes!  That's my complaint as well.  You can't appreciate the speeds those cars go if you're sitting at home watching the race on the television.  I went to a CART race in St. Petersburg, Florida, and was impressed at how fast the CHAMP cars could take the turns.

Still, I'm not really a fan of open-wheel racing.  The Trans-Am sports coupe series is the better race of the CART circuit, and ALMS puts on some great 3-day events, too.  I've already made my hotel reservations for Sebring's ALMS event next year and if I don't get let go from my job between now and March, I plan on actually buying a ticket. :)

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2003, 09:17:22 AM »
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I think the current Jaguar looks great.


I've got a die-cast model of the Jaguar R1 (Eddie Irvine's ride) sitting on my desk, mostly because I like the paint scheme but also because it was sponsored by my employer's main competitor. :)

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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2003, 10:32:17 AM »
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It was more about quality of drivers back then, now its to much tech and the outcome is usually given unless its starts to rain or a car breaks.

IMO the cars should be more equal in performance so that drivers and pitcrews decide who wins. Michael is not that superior to other drivers, he just has ALOT better car and more money in his team then the rest.


More tech now?  F1 tech peaked in 1993 and since then they have drastically reduced the aids available to the driver.

More equal in performance?  You mean like when McLaren with Senna and Prost or Senna and Berger won every race?  This year there has been 5 winners in 7 races.  It doesn't get much more equal than that.  :)

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2003, 11:00:42 AM »
Don't quite aggree with ya there gofaster...

Now you have traction control, automatic transmitions, launch control and everything is computer controlled either from cockpit or from the pit crews. There will be some new rules for next season that may eaven things up abit tho.

However, you do have a point about this season SO FAR beeing pretty close but im afraid that when the season is over Ferrari will win again with mclaren in 2nd. (my favourite teams, williams and reanult will fall behind unless the new williams car is better :D)

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2003, 11:21:48 AM »
I love the looks of cars today, but prefer the engines of yesterday. Saw the six wheeled tyrrel racing last year at donnington park along with other historic F1's great machine.
'92 was the year schumacher started racing in F1 for bennaton won his first race then too.
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2003, 12:59:24 PM »
Actually Schumi had his first F1 start in 1991, with Jordan, then moved to Benetton during the season.

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2003, 01:04:22 PM »
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Now you have traction control, automatic transmitions, launch control and everything is computer controlled either from cockpit or from the pit crews. There will be some new rules for next season that may eaven things up abit tho.


Pre-1994 the brakes and suspension and steering and differential were all computer controlled too, and they had two way telemetry and "track learning" whereby the car learned to shift, adjust the diff, and alter the suspension tuning as it went around the track.  Today's cars still have a lot of electronics, but not nearly as much as pre-1994.
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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2003, 01:09:18 PM »
didnt know all that funked...:)

oh well, i guess its just a feeling i have then... that all was better back then.

For some reason i still feel that the racing was better in the mid to late 80's and early 90's.

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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2003, 01:14:34 PM »
Give me CanAm, or give me nothing.

Real men and real cars.

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« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2003, 01:15:42 PM »
Didn't Schumacher & Frentzen drive for Sauber Mercedes in the Worlds Sportscar Prototype Championship (WSPC/IMSA) in around 1990?

I liked WSPC more than F1 at the time, although I prefered the Jaguars.  Anyone remember this championship?  There used to be Jaguars, Aston Martins, Porsche, Mercedes, Nissan, Toyota....

Jaguar XJR-9


XJR-11


XJR-14
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« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2003, 01:18:41 PM »
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Pre-1994 the brakes and suspension and steering and differential were all computer controlled too, and they had two way telemetry and "track learning" whereby the car learned to shift, adjust the diff, and alter the suspension tuning as it went around the track. Today's cars still have a lot of electronics, but not nearly as much as pre-1994.
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They then banned that casue it was too good, which is what they should be doing with fully auto gearbox's, launch and traction control.
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2003, 01:18:46 PM »
Replicant, I could live with those too

Yes they did the Mercedes "JR." team as they called it.

Wendlinger also.

Replicant they where called Group C prototypes

WSC World Sports Cars
IMSA in the States.