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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: June 20, 2000, 10:12:00 AM »
I basically want to know what my limitations are for an upgrade:  Heres what I have:

* denotes these are  the components that I want to upgrade)

*Pentium2 350 mhz
*Asus M/B with 128K ram
9 gig Western Digital HD
TNT Ultra 32 mg. Video card
SB 16 sound card

I would like to buy a new M/B and a new Pentium chip (Thanks, I'll pass on any other chip other than Pentium, it's been good to me too many years, and, I'm a share holder!)

So, What are my limitations for, say , $1000 to spend?  

-Motherboard-   Brand?-Cost?
-Pentium chip-  MHZ? Cost?
-Will I have to get more Ram? (Currently 128 now)

On a scale from 1-10, my general knowledge of PC's is about a 5. I've worked on my own but only upgrades to Video cards, Ram, sound cards, etc...my next question is...can I just pop in a new M/B and chip? Or do I need to clean the HD off and re-install Win?


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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2000, 10:28:00 AM »
Hehe. I gotta get me a new 'puter too.  Been wondering what I should be getting (Have those athlon chipsets solved the problem that required you to put the AGP down a x1?).
I think you could just "pop in" a new M/B (even though that's probably about as much work as assembling a completely new computer), but assuming you've had windows on for a while, you'll probably benefit from reinstalling the OS.
I'm thinking back to the early days of this O/S installation and how much faster they were...

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2000, 10:40:00 AM »
Rip, my advice:

- a good BX MoBo (I have a Microstar BX-Master, maybe US$100),
- a PIII-600E (249US$ at AZZO Computers),
- a good PC133 RAM (about US$150).

IMHO your vid-card and HD are enuff. Then, o/c to 744 or 800MHz and have fun!

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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2000, 10:45:00 AM »
hiya all:

you might want to wait till Oct/Nov to look at new comp or to upgrade pentium.
pentium 4 is suppose to be out then starting at 1 gigaherze, (not sure if i spelled that right). it just a thought.


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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2000, 11:11:00 AM »
Rip,
 http://www.pricewatch.com
Search for your components there, it usually gets me the best prices.  Also be aware that you may have to pay slightly higher on one of the itmes in order to keep it coming from one source to keep shipping prices down.
I just ordered components for my sister's college comp (PIII 667EB) from  http://www.computer-x-press.com
I found the PIII 667EB (Coppermine 256k external cache, 133 Bus) to be the best bang for the buck at the moment, I got mine for $192 from computer-x-press by mentioning the pricewatch listed price.  I ordered a tripple-fan and heatsink unit for the PIII along with it. ($15)  I've had good luck with Abit motherboards.  I ordered the Abit VA6 for my sis's comp for $65.  It has onboard sound and a 133 bus, along with the usual AGP and PCI slots.  I haven't received it yet, but reviews of this board indicate it to be a VERY stable board, but it lacks in speed slightly from the latest BX chipset.  For a bit more you can get an Abit board with the BX chipset.  The Abit BH6 in this machine is doing well, and it was simple to set up.  A good set of PC133 RAM should do you well.  Beware of the lower priced RAM, it may not be as high quality as others.  I ordered it for my sis's comp 'cause she isn't into 3D games or anything that needs absolute peak performance.

If you're going for the PIII processor, get an EB.  EB means it has both the 133 bus and the coppermine 256k external cache which is supposed to perform well.  And make sure you get the right type of processor for your board.  If your board is a Slot-1 board, make sure you get the SECC-2 chip.  If it is a socket board, get the FGA/PGA chip.  They sell adapters to convert the socket chips to slot-1, but you'd be better off just getting the right one for your board  

From my searching, Athlon chips are generally cheaper, but I found that decent motherboards  for these things cost significantly more than a good PIII board, plus I've only dealt with Pentiums, and like to stick with something which has proven itself to me.

128MB of PC-133 RAM should be plenty for Win98 in my opinion.  A good stick of PC-133 16*64 DIMM RAM should run from $140-160.  Again, if I were building a gaming computer, I'd go with a brand-name set of RAM over the cheaper generic stuff.

Also, if you get a new motherboard and plan on using your current case, be sure you get the right style of motherboard.  If your motherboard is an ATX one (reccomended) make sure you have an ATX case to mount it, preferably with at least a 235 watt power supply.  I like the Apex cases for their low price yet high quality, along with easlily removeable sides.

I've only built one computer, and the parts are on the way for my 2nd.  I'm still learning this stuff, but if you have any other questions, I can try to answer them for you.

Hope that helped.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2000, 11:27:00 AM »
Rip,

If it were me, I'd probably go with an Asus CUBX, a PIII 800E FCPGA chip...that'd probably run ya a little over $500, then if you wanted to, you could also get a 3DFX V5500 or a GeForce card.

If you're replacing the motherboard, I'd definitely recommend re-installing windows though.  It's a pain, but installing a new mobo can cause problems and even if it doesn't a new install means a fresh clean registry = faster windoze  


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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2000, 12:54:00 PM »
Try overclocking first. If you have an earlyish P2-350, it is neither bus nor multiplier locked, and you could get a 50% increase in MHz for the price of a good fan.

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2000, 01:16:00 PM »
If that was my system and I had that much money to spend, I'd get 20 gauge Browning Citori.



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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2000, 03:42:00 PM »
QTS: you have my interest, how does one overclock it?

Gatt/Wulf/Mark: thks!  Just throwing those names out gives me a place to start.

Pyro, I get hunting fevor around August, but, think I'll stick with my Model 1100, little heavy for upland birds, but excellent for geese and duck!  Will bring pics with me to the con of last years goose trip in Montana...I'm still shaking when I think of those beaties flairing 20 feet in front of me!


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My course is endless through the year.
I bow all heads and break all hearts,
All owe homage-I am Fear.

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