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Offline SKurj

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« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2003, 09:33:28 PM »
Massive problems with AW??????


I don't recall any "problems" myself


maybe a few deficiencies, but i'd imagine AW must hold a record for the longest surviving code in a fairly successful MMOPG!  I mean 10 years...  10 years of a 2d cockpit, 10 yr old gfx etc etc...

I really can't believe AW dissappeared so quickly.. or am I ignorant and some russians have resurrected it somewhere...
Is aw really gone?  AW will never be gone, maybe from our HDD's but it won't be forgotten soon.

AW will always hold a place in flight sim history and in my own heart +)


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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2003, 09:43:58 PM »
I think AH is the best , but AW will always have my heart as the most fun I've had online so far ( other than porn) :)

A few things AW had that I wish AH had:

1. kill macros ( was a hoot)
2. Kill messages ( system: Nuke shot down so and so) ...made it impossible for someone to die without disgrace :), especially the "big" guns.

3. killboard seen by all as you logged on.
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« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2003, 09:59:03 PM »
BH:1942 was the first LucasArts flight sim in the series (followed by "Their Finest Hour", and, of course "SWOTL").
Yeah, they were great sims.  In spite of their FM defects, they really gave you the feel.

Now, nuke, those things in AW are the things I'm glad are not in AH.
And I doubt the russians have resurrected it.  They've resurrected other things, but not this.

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« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2003, 10:11:39 PM »
Most entertaining flight sims in my book: Wings (amiga! :>), Warbirds (under icigames) and surprisingly dawn of aces.

WWIIOL has been good fun as well... the first game where theres actually been 'live' ground war below the aircraft :>

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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2003, 12:37:14 AM »
you guys aren't picking the best ever, you're picking the best personal memory - usually ur 1st experience of a flight sim

fire up BH1942 - it won't give you chills to play it today(sim hooked me too on bro in laws screamin 386) . Sims like AH and IL2 have spoiled us.

SWOTL was great on my 386/486 early 90's - it looks like a 2nd grader greated the graphics/fm compared to today's standards.
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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2003, 12:57:17 AM »
Atari "Combat"

Loved the richochet tank rounds

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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2003, 07:09:39 AM »
Obviously there are better sims out there now, but looking at it relatively (by the time I spent playing it in its time) it can only be EAW for me.
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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2003, 07:35:08 AM »
I'd have to go with RB1, granted - by today's standards its graphics are crap, and so is the sound... but the involvement it had was something else.

You could "paint" your plane using a pre-set of colored parts, I had a Nieuport 17 (my favorite plane) with a blue upper wing, white lower wing and grey fuselage. When you became an Ace, I think, you could have your own personal aircraft- so at any point in the war you could have any aircraft thats in service. In 1918 I was fighting Fokker DVIIs and DVIIIs (the mono-wing parasol fighter that came in an expansion pack) with the Nieuport 17. If you dove too fast in some of the planes, like the Nieuport 17 or Albatros series, the wings would break in half because the lower wings were extremely weak and small.

Then there was the things like "An Ace has challenged you to a duel!" during the campaign, and you could fight various aces. The letters would prescribe what altitude you were to be at, and what time... certain aces like Lother von Richtofen would bring 2 wingmen with him.

There was also the feature where you would be transferred to crappier and crappier squadrons if your performance was poor, or you could be invited to some of the more elite/crack squadrons if you did well. Squadrons like R.N.A.S. 8, Escadrille 28 (I think, whichever one had Charles Nungesser in it), and Jasta 11 (Richtofen's squadron, which would later be an integral part in J.G.1- the Flying Circus).

If you were wounded and landed behind friendly lines, you would spend time in a hospital. If you crash landed behind enemy lines, or on the front lines (easily discernible because of the trench warfare style), there was a chance of evading capture.

Basically the whole campaign system was what made Red Baron 1, I don't think any system since then has really accomplished the design that went into that system... then again- only one company has really tried WWI since then, and it was Dynamix again with Red Baron 2/3D... but since Damon Slye was no longer with Dynamix, RB2/3D just didn't have the vision behind it.

Its a good game of course, with probably the best dynamic campaign system- but the things mentioned above were not done as well as RB1... or missing fromit completely.
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« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2003, 09:38:00 AM »
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Then there was the things like "An Ace has challenged you to a duel!" during the campaign, and you could fight various aces. The letters would prescribe what altitude you were to be at, and what time... certain aces like Lother von Richtofen would bring 2 wingmen with him.

 


I finished one or 2 campaigns in RB1 and no ace ever challenged me to a duel :(

Yeah, RB1 is also one of the best sims.

Eagler, I have played both CYAC and RB1 long after their release dates, and had played many sims with better graphics before I even knew about them.

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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2003, 09:46:45 AM »
how many of you know of a sim called JSF? It had revolutionary graphics for its day, with surptisingly low system requirements. Heck, the graphics would be good even today. Hills were round, when you bailed out and swere walking around it looked like a FPS, and towns were real towns with lots of buildings.
The company had some new graphics engine that simply blew away anything done before.
What happened to them?
What happened to their graphics engine? If updated, it could probably yield graphics superior to those in FB, at much lower system requirements?

Does anybody even know what game I'm talking about?!?!?!:confused:

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« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2003, 10:03:03 AM »
Couldn't agree with you more, Airhead.  Aces over Europe was like, say,... mastrubation - satisfying, but missing something.  Air Warrior was like, oh, having sex when you were a teenager - all the ingredients for a great time (given your limited knowledge on the subject).

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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2003, 10:09:29 AM »
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Most entertaining flight sims in my book: Wings (amiga! :>), Warbirds (under icigames) and surprisingly dawn of aces.

WWIIOL has been good fun as well... the first game where theres actually been 'live' ground war below the aircraft :>


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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2003, 11:41:55 AM »
Massive problems with AW??????


I don't recall any "problems" myself



oh my..don't you remember the dogfighting B-17? A B-17 could out maneuver a Spit.. oh how about early on.. when the tanks were being used as anti-aircraft guns? you'd fly along nice and high and boom, you were toast..no one around but a giggling tank 20k feet below..


gotta give AW its props, tho.. had some of the best sim time ever in AW.

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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2003, 11:51:43 AM »
After thinking about Eagler's post I came up with this:

Let me tell you how bad I was hooked on RB1.  I would set up a fan on top of my monitor and put it on high.  I would then take my portable jam box and hook up the sound card to it and turn it wayyyyyy up.  I would have the feel and sound of actually being there, wind in my face and the machine guns so loud as to be almost deafening.  For the time period the graphics, sound, and gameplay was unparalleled.  What could be cooler than painting your oun plane whatever color(s) you wanted?  Or the aces challenges or being asked by a certain ace to join his squadron or jasta.  Man, those were the days....
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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2003, 11:55:26 AM »
SSI´s  Flanker Su-27 version 1.5 :D