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« on: June 07, 2003, 08:13:47 AM »
Sorry you didn't find me but at least you found a couple of my lameo squadies.  they aren't very good but they are sorta fun to fight.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2003, 06:34:08 PM »
*lol* who were they and where?
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2003, 07:41:00 PM »
couple night ago.. right after I left.. didn't your squad run into couple of my squaddies?  Drex and Xdak.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2003, 08:57:10 PM »
Ah yes, on the main island I think. Don't remember who won though. :)
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2003, 04:53:31 PM »
Drex sux

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2003, 04:40:29 PM »
Gsholtz:

I'll refresh your memory.  You guys died.  

After JB42 got killed by Drex the second time he berated Drex for cherry-picking.  A film of the incident is available here (http://www.bkhooly.com/cherry.ahf).  Clearly I don't understand cherry-picking, because I had previously thought that being slower and several thousand feet below your victim would not be in the proper spirit of such things.  Also, when JB42 watches drex return to his "perch", I would think that a perch 500 feet above the ground and below all the enemy aircraft would not qualify (although admitedly he did have an altitude advantage over many of the enemy vehicles).

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2003, 09:20:32 PM »
After viewing the film I can say the following:

1. I was not there (no 110 crashing the party).

2. Drex did nothing wrong in my book, and flew rather well.

3. JB42 must have had a bad day. It didn't sound like the JB42 I know.

4. I need to start filming more! :)

Btw. are you all BK's? Lazs, Drex and all?
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2003, 11:03:20 PM »
TALES IN THE BUFFER..

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2003, 01:59:04 AM »
Had a couple of fights with you BK's tonight.

First one was a furball over 129 (I think) a real mess and after an F6F (prolly Drex) shot one of my engines out Hooligan nailed the coffin shut as I was going after a formation of B26's. Never saw him. :)

Second one I was still in the 110 half way between 146 and 129 when JB42 encountered Drex in his much feared F6F. Unfortunately 42 missed his shot and ran into trouble fast. I was lagging behind 42 on the climbout so 42 was in a chute before I could help him. Lost sight on Drex and blew most of my alt advantage before reacquiring him. I knew I couldn't turn with him since I still had 90% fuel in the tanks and was way heavier and more underpowered compared to his F6F, so after a few moves trying to get a snap shot I extended to about d2.2 and turned. We merged again and I failed to get a snapshot on him, and that was that. Too low on E to get out of .50 cal range, and too heavy to fight. He promptly shredded my 110.

The third encounter was over 146 where us Rooks had been capping the field for a while and were just waiting for the goon to fly the troops in. I had switched to the 109 and was barrel climbing to get some alt when woe and behold here comes an F6F screaming in high ... great. I had lost my rudder and an aileron to flak and Drex had alt on me. However he went after another Rook to the NE allowing me to climb up his six ... along with five or six other Rooks capping the field. I was slowly closing the gap, and at about d2.0 he turned into us, real ballsy ... stoopid but ballsy :). After a 20-30 second brawl he went down missing a tail, complements of another Rook.

In this third encounter I had no real chance to stay with his turn reversals due to my damaged plane, but it did give me a chance to study this F6F pilot who Lazs called "not very good, but sorta fun to fight". Obviously not the greatest tactician (;)), but he flew that F6F like a headen God! Very impressive indeed. I then knew that Drex is not the usual breed of F6F drivers who can be tricked easily.

The fourth encounter was over 161 after we had captured 146. I came in at 20K in my 109 searching for prey, and soon spotted the furball mess below. There were all kinds of red planes down there, but a single F6F stood out from the pack ... hmmmmm. Confident in my position above the furball I dived on the F6F that was moving away, carefully trimming the 109 for high speed. As I fell on him he quickly turned left and I though I was left with only a snapshot opportunity, but Drex made a mistake, he reversed his turn too early in his attempt to get a departing tail shot on me. One mistake is all I need I thought as I raked his F6F from nose to tail. Down he went missing several parts. I quickly ran into trouble after that and practically dragged a horde of various planes around a few turns before an F4F got me.

The fifth and last encounter so far was also over 161. Coming in at 20K I dived on a 109, but he ran for ack cover so I broke of that chase. I turned my attention on an F4U that was slightly above me and in the process of reducing another Rook to so much aluminum confetti, I closed in to d400 and as he broke off his attack I started mine. Knowing the wings are rather weak on the F4U all it took was 6-7 rounds of 20mm and I was again looking for prey, then I saw an F6F lurking low over by the field and turned towards him. He was heading my way and I had a slight alt advantage of about 2K feet. As we closed to the merge he dove a bit and picked up speed ... that should have been my first clue. As the F6F passed underneath me I put my wings 90 degrees on the horizon and turned to fall on him, but he zoomed up behind me and now I realized my mistake ... I had speed, but he was close and had those .50 cals of his pointing my way. I tried to disengage, but to no avail. Tail and wing missing, down I go. I will not make that mistake next time Drex (at least I will try not too ;)).

I had fun tonight. BK's, I look forward to future encounters.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2003, 08:21:30 AM »
yep "all" them guys are BK's  we have upwards to 3 at a time on most times.   We don't fly organized much tho.

Where was I?   I was on last night but it was before drex.  Hoolign and I went to one field and I was in a spit 1 and then a spit 5 (allmost through the set).   hooli said you guys were at the field.. of the six I killed i  didn't recognize any names.   Who is in your squad?

So... you "allmost" killed drex?  you must now know the secret and will undoubtably not make that particular mistake again.  
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2003, 08:25:46 PM »
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yep "all" them guys are BK's  we have upwards to 3 at a time on most times.   We don't fly organized much tho.


Same here. Usually us JB's have just a few members online at any one time. We have squadnights of course and we fly in special evens. We too fly pretty much unorganized, something I regret and want to change since the LW were very organized flies and their aircraft were designed to accomodate that.

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Where was I?   I was on last night but it was before drex.  Hoolign and I went to one field and I was in a spit 1 and then a spit 5 (allmost through the set).   hooli said you guys were at the field.. of the six I killed i  didn't recognize any names.   Who is in your squad?


In the first fight over 129 where Hooligan finished my 110 off I did hear a call on vox that someone needed help with a Spit I. I guess that was you. You logged before I could mix it up with you BK's again. The members of III/Jabostaffel are easy to recognize since their handles all start with JB (CO. JB42, XO. JB73), except myself and a few other new guys like Blondy and JBud. I will soon change my handle to JB33GS. In the first fight it was only JB42 and me. If Phantom4 is one of yours I got him, but he got JB42 a little later (42 was in a C.205).

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So... you "allmost" killed drex?  you must now know the secret and will undoubtably not make that particular mistake again.  
lazs


Well I did kill Drex once and he got me twice, so he's leading our personal scoreboard for now :). I don't know about any secret, but I do have immense respect for the F6F. Easily the best Pac fighter IMHO and does not have any real weaknesses to exploit. However they are usually rather easy prey since their pilots tend to not know what a great plane they got. In the hands of pilots like Drex and yourself it's a though nut to crack. When I see you or Drex online I'll be careful around Knit F6F's ;).
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2003, 02:18:31 PM »
the phantom guy is not one of the BK's..  

JB?  ahh... that makes it simple.. I have fought JB's before I think... i know I have fought blondy even in the ct the few times I was in there... he seems like a pretty good stick.

I don't fly the f6 much.  normally I like the FM2 but will jump around in the large maps... did fly the f6 for about 20-30 kills this tour and found it to be a little more versitile than the FM2.

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2003, 08:21:49 PM »
Ah the FM2 and its ugly brother F4F. Bloody self-propelled turrets they are! No matter what I do they seem to have their guns pointing my way ...
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